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as the idea of the story itself, one man having all these effects and ripples throughout American history.
Couldn't you just like Zelig instead of the reactionary right wing Gump? Which basically says "even though American culture was retarded before the counter culture came along, it was better."
Given that it was a European co-production, filmed in Europe, by a British director, based on a British author, I'm not sure why it was there in the first place.
This is what I was thinking about with the two David Lean movies and, to a lesser extent, A CLOCKWORK ORANGE. I know that one was financed by Warners, and Kubrick was as American as a 10-year (at the point) expatriate could be, but I can't remember if either of the Lean movies were totally British productions or not (I know BRIDGE... at least had William Holden in it).
I saw the movie when I didn't know anything about politics, so I didn't see any political subtext.
I've never seen Zelig.
Also, maybe I like lame and twee, sometimes. I'm pretty lame and twee. I think. Maybe.
Some quirkiness ages well, and some doesn't. Good: Julie Andrews in Sound of Music; Diane Keaton in Godfather. Not so: Liza in Cabaret.
Yeesh, Diane Keaton is terrible and wasted in Godfather. I love her, but that was a forgettable role for her. Her quirkiness in Annie Hall still works.
I like Liza in Cabaret. She's supposed to be hyper and shallow.
It's really not a personal attack, P-C. I still love you, man. Even if you like that terrible movie.
Unless you're secretly Swedish. You're not secretly Swedish, are you?
I did say that about Clockwork last night, though I didn't remember when Kubrick had left the U.S. Hell, Bob had to remind me that he was actually American. And Lawrence of Arabia, though that may be American financed, for all I know.
I was riffing on something that Tim Minear said in Minearverse with that "too much magic" line, P-C. I wasn't serious.
You're not secretly Swedish, are you?
God, my parents would have a FIT.
I like Liza in Cabaret. She's supposed to be hyper and shallow.
Exactly. Her Sally Bowles is the epitome of flightiness, but by the end of the film, that flightiness is an obvious shell since we've grown to know the frightened, rejected child she is underneath. A really excellent performance by Liza, and one she (supposedly) based partially on her mother.
A secret message for Sean: pfffffffttttttthhhhh!!!
Corwood, that song is AWESOME!
Thanks!
Diane Keaton is terrible and wasted in Godfather
Oh, I don't agree with this. She's not great in parts, but when Kay realizes just how fucked she is towards the end, Keaton pulls off some great pathos. She's definitely the most over-the-top actor in G2, though.