Buffy: I was regrouping. Spike: You were about to be regrouped into separate piles.

'Potential'


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Kalshane - Mar 10, 2006 9:43:03 am PST #943 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

I love realistic heroes as well, that's not Bond. You don't watch a Bond movie for "realism". You watch it for Bond being Bond.


Kathy A - Mar 10, 2006 9:47:51 am PST #944 of 10001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

If they can do Baby Bond better than Sum of All Fears did Baby Ryan, I'll be happy. Of course, Craig is multitudes sexier than the Affleck, so that's a plus already.


Matt the Bruins fan - Mar 10, 2006 10:59:18 am PST #945 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Then there's the Can Actually Act (Or at least Chooses To) factor as well.


Strega - Mar 10, 2006 12:59:30 pm PST #946 of 10001

I like the idea that there's going to be a reaction that boils down to, "How DARE they be somewhat faithful to the book!?"


§ ita § - Mar 10, 2006 1:19:04 pm PST #947 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The movie franchise isn't the book, and hasn't been for a long time. I've read the books, like the books, and don't blame a single moviegoer who wonders what's happened to the suave ladykiller of their childhood.

Because I will miss him too.


Sean K - Mar 10, 2006 4:24:57 pm PST #948 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I'll miss the old Bond too, but I have old Bond movies for that. I'll be very curious to check this one out.

Plus, they like the gadgets.

The quote from the director in the article did have a point though -- how much further could they go in that direction. I was kind of getting tired of it. Invisible car??? Cool, but how do you top that? And how many more vast control rooms and maniacal madmen can there be?

It was getting to be too much, but maybe I'm a bad Bond fan.


tommyrot - Mar 10, 2006 4:30:24 pm PST #949 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

how much further could they go in that direction.

AU Bond?

Bond set in the past?

He could fight Hitler!


Strega - Mar 10, 2006 4:41:38 pm PST #950 of 10001

I enjoy the movies in themselves, and the books in themselves, but I don't... I'm not sure how to phrase it. I don't have A Single Vision of what Bond's like, and anything else is a travesty. I grew up seeing the Connery on TV, Moore in the theaters, and reading the books, so maybe that's why. The media coverage at least makes me somewhat interested in seeing Casino Royale. Which is a change from the past decade or so, when my reaction was more, "I'll watch it on TV if it's on and I'm bored."

I'm not sure what there is in that article that suggests he'll just blush and stammer in front of girls. The reporter sums things up by saying he "dislikes violence," because it's attention-grabbing, but the director says "Bond finds violence hard to take, he won't admit to that." Which makes significantly more sense.


erikaj - Mar 10, 2006 4:48:25 pm PST #951 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

As I was reading in this thread, I wondered if they might not have done better taking a more Poirot like approach to Bond, and just kept it 1965 all the time.Mind you, it's too late now, but...you know in the best Poirot adaptations it's always the thirties


sarameg - Mar 10, 2006 5:12:40 pm PST #952 of 10001

I enjoy immensely a tortured, fallible hero.

BUT.

I'm all about the cheesy Bond. It's a guilty pleasure. Staying up late to watch TBS's Bond marathon with my dad the one summer we had cable.

But movie Bond is cheesy antiheroes, archaic womanizing (that my inner feminist horks a hairball at,) smooth and FABULOUS, fantasmic explosions and above all, GADGETS.

So I might enjoy this "new" Bond on its own, as a troubled, breakable hero. But it isn't the Bond of me and dad and popcorn and summer nights.