Cordelia: You're him. You're Angel's son. Connor: It's not like I got to choose.

'Hell Bound'


Buffista Movies 5: Development Hell  

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brenda m - Jun 20, 2007 11:44:42 am PDT #9350 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I saw it. It was entertaining, though Captain Logic is not driving that tugboat.

Costner is actually quite good. William Hurt is amazing. Demi Moore - and, really, her entire storyline - is pretty forgettable.

It's really not the cop/bad guy cat and mouse flick it's being marketed as, and the plot doesn't hang together very well. But the heart of the story is the stuff going on in whacked-out Kevin Costner's crazy head, and he and Hurt really sell the characters.


Laga - Jun 20, 2007 11:49:57 am PDT #9351 of 10001
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

Thanks, brenda. That's very helpful.


sumi - Jun 20, 2007 12:12:33 pm PDT #9352 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Marc Forster to direct the next Bond.

And Michael Apted is going to direct the 3rd Narnia movie.


Sean K - Jun 20, 2007 1:41:42 pm PDT #9353 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

One of John Sayles big rewrite jobs was on Apollo 13, for Ron Howard.

Which is funny, because most of the dialog is taken directly from transcripts of the communications between the capsule and ground control, and from Jim Lovell's book "Lost Moon," (later renamed "Apollo 13," so they could republish as a movie tie-in). I would be very interested to read the various iterations of that script.


Kathy A - Jun 20, 2007 2:18:43 pm PDT #9354 of 10001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

I always liked the stuff happening in Houston, from the challenge of getting the square filter to fit into the round hole, to the exchange between a few of the NASA guys in mid-crisis:

What time is it?
Four.
Is that a.m. or p.m.?
A.m. Very, very a.m.


Sean K - Jun 20, 2007 2:24:35 pm PDT #9355 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Ed Harris made a great Gene Krantz.

Gene Krantz is himself a very entertaining crotchety old fart.


Polter-Cow - Jun 20, 2007 2:34:35 pm PDT #9356 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

You know, Apollo 13 was a really good movie. It made you feel the tension the entire time, and you were right there with the characters trying to figure out how to solve problem after problem, amazed at the ingenuity.


Sean K - Jun 20, 2007 2:45:40 pm PDT #9357 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

You should read the book. The movie manages to make the situation they were in seem less dire than it actually was. Lovell goes into very excellent (and well ghost written) detail on just how screwed they really were. The movie leaves out a couple of things.


Kathy A - Jun 20, 2007 2:46:26 pm PDT #9358 of 10001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Gene Krantz is himself a very entertaining crotchety old fart.

Which makes his telling of the return of Apollo 13 to Earth even more touching. In a documentary that was packaged with the Apollo 13 vhs tape, he starts to cry as he's talking about his relief in seeing the capsule's parachutes on the monitor in Houston. Seeing that crusty codger tear up...well, it's incredibly moving.

Speaking of Apollo dramatizations, last night the Science Channel's episode of From the Earth to the Moon was my favorite one, the Apollo 12 ep with Dave Foley as Al Bean (the one moon-walker I've met in person, btw). I was afraid they would completely delete the scenes with Pete and Al floating past their fellow astronaut completely naked, but all they did was fuzz out the bare asses, and bleep the stronger language (the scene where Pete Conrad goes on an expletive-laden rant in front of a grade school tour group is hilarious!). I have the series on DVD, but I can't help but stay and watch it, even in its edited and bleeped version.


Sean K - Jun 20, 2007 2:50:28 pm PDT #9359 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

That's my favorite episode in the series too, Kath.