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Buffista Movies 5: Development Hell  

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Theodosia - Jun 20, 2007 8:39:14 am PDT #9329 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

There are a lot of bottom-feeder SF movies because movie execs know they can count on an audience that has low expectations.


§ ita § - Jun 20, 2007 8:42:57 am PDT #9330 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It's the same thing as the Sci Fi channel's original movies. Which I have discovered are great during a migraine (thank you Brad Johnson and some poorly articulated vivisection metaphors).


Frankenbuddha - Jun 20, 2007 9:24:44 am PDT #9331 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

In Corman's school, you had ten days and ten thousand (I think) dollars to make a bad horror movie.

Often, you'd start with a title and a "star" of some sort or another (if you consider Lee Van Cleef or Peter Graves stars). Not even a premise necessarily, just a title and a poster. They'd sell the theaters on that, then make the film.

If you finished with time to spare and budget left over, you made another one with what was left over.

Heh, this is what happened when Corman had Boris Karloff and 3 days left over after THE RAVEN, so he drafted Jack Nicholson (who played Peter Lorre's SON in THE RAVEN!) to star, as well as do some uncredited co-writing and directing (and I guess a couple other folks lent a hand in those departments as well). They got the film done, and it's actually worth watching. It looks like a random Poe mash-up. It's not good, but it's interesting.

A LOT of interesting folks got their start working for Corman.


askye - Jun 20, 2007 9:28:48 am PDT #9332 of 10001
Thrive to spite them

That sounds kind of interesting. Cracked out and weird but still interesting.


Frankenbuddha - Jun 20, 2007 9:37:56 am PDT #9333 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Checking imdb, I was wrong about Nicholson doing any co-writing, but he did co-direct, along with Corman, Francis Ford Coppola, Monte Hellman and Jack Hill (all but Corman uncredited).


Sean K - Jun 20, 2007 9:38:16 am PDT #9334 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

A LOT of interesting folks got their start working for Corman.

Probably the most notable was Ron Howard. That's where he trained to direct. He has a couple of interesting and amusing stories about working with Corman.


Frankenbuddha - Jun 20, 2007 9:40:58 am PDT #9335 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Probably the most notable was Ron Howard.

I'd argue Martin Scorsese (though he had already done one on his own before doing BOXCAR BERTHA) or, as I said, Coppola (who did a couple he did get credit for, notably DEMENTIA 13), as I figure Jonathan Demme isn't quite as notable Ron Howard.


Sean K - Jun 20, 2007 9:50:26 am PDT #9336 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I forgot both Scorsese and Coppola worked for Corman. Yes, Corman has produced quite the lineup of high powered directors, which is HI-larious when you consider the kind of work they were producing.


Hayden - Jun 20, 2007 9:57:07 am PDT #9337 of 10001
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

a METRIC SHITLOAD of coke

Wow, that's, like, Eurotrash levels.

I figure Jonathan Demme isn't quite as notable Ron Howard

I am outraged on behalf of Mr. Demme.

when you consider the kind of work they were producing.

I like that lefty ol' John Sayles got his start writing Piranha and Battle Beyond the Stars for Corman. Edit - just writing, not directing.


Sean K - Jun 20, 2007 10:11:00 am PDT #9338 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Sayles still does a lot of uncredited (by his own choice) rewrites on lots of different things, to fund his own independant filmmaking.