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Sean K - Jun 14, 2007 8:49:58 am PDT #9171 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Sean, does "martial arts epic"=="wu shu" for you?

Well, no, not really. And my original answer to P-C was going be all "yes and no" and go into the definitions of each, and include links to Wikipedia entries.

Then I checked the Wikipedia page for wu shu, and found that the wikipedia definition for wu shu boils down to "martial arts epic".

So I tossed my original post and went with a simplified "yes".

But I know what you're talking about. I think you and I talked about it back when he first made his announcement about "no more wu shu". I think we have similar definitions. I'm just feeling intellectually lazy this morning. More than usual. Intellectually lazier.


§ ita § - Jun 14, 2007 9:00:42 am PDT #9172 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

then I find it slightly hilarious that the first movie Jet Li does after swearing off wu shu movies is called War.

Well, it's war as in martial--despite the meaning fo the word martial, most war movies aren't martial arts movies.

Wu shu is a martial arts umbrella and a movie genre. I don't think you can make a wu shu movie without kung fu, but I think you can make a kung fu movie without it being wu shu.

In my head, anyway.

I wish I could see the source material for this interview. Because the article seems to equate a martial arts movie with a wu shu movie with a kung fu movie. Others don't.


DavidS - Jun 14, 2007 9:04:55 am PDT #9173 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Huh. From today's Chron review:

To say that "Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer" is better than the original isn't enough. The last one was awful, one of the worst movies of its year, while the new one is a pleasure, one of the most enjoyable pictures of the season. The last "Fantastic Four" was 106 minutes of water torture. The new one, instead of expanding in length, clocks in at a streamlined 92 minutes, but nothing about it seems truncated or small-scale. The stakes and the scope are tremendous, and yet the movie doesn't wallow in either. Director Tim Story and writers Don Payne and Mark Frost are at all times telling the story, moving the action forward.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jun 14, 2007 9:06:48 am PDT #9174 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

or 1996 (The Rock).

Someone thought that was a good movie? That wasn't on the payroll for it, I mean?


§ ita § - Jun 14, 2007 9:11:48 am PDT #9175 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Huh. The people I know who've seen F4:2 thought it was a pile of crap.

And they were working on it.


-t - Jun 14, 2007 9:12:52 am PDT #9176 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I enjoyed The Rock a lot. But I am easy.

Eta: I am torn as to whether I will see the new Fantastic Four, because on the one hand I couldn't bear to watch the first one, but on the other the Silver Surfer = love, so I don't know what to do.


Polter-Cow - Jun 14, 2007 9:14:17 am PDT #9177 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

The last one was awful, one of the worst movies of its year, while the new one is a pleasure, one of the most enjoyable pictures of the season.

Huh. See, I didn't think the first movie was that awful. It was fun and enjoyable, for the most part.

Someone thought that was a good movie?

I love it. It's one of my favorites.


P.M. Marc - Jun 14, 2007 9:16:01 am PDT #9178 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Maybe 1998 (Playing by Heart, which I've never seen, but looks like a good cast).

I tried to watch it. I did. It was on heavy rotation on one of the movie channels. Jon Stewart was adorable. But it drove me nuts, and I couldn't stand more than 15 minutes of it at a time.


Dana - Jun 14, 2007 9:17:18 am PDT #9179 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Playing By Heart isn't a great movie, but it's essential for all Jon Stewart lovers.


beekaytee - Jun 14, 2007 10:01:10 am PDT #9180 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

Gives him more time to slap women around.

Snerk.
He's dead to me.