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Buffista Movies 5: Development Hell  

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Nutty - Jun 01, 2007 10:40:02 am PDT #8890 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Ziggy Stardust helps Wolverine beat Batman using the AWESOME POWER OF ELECTRICITY.

Don't forget, Ziggy's assistant was played by Gollum. While Batman's assistant was, um, well, Batman's assistant, unless you're willing to say he was also Carter from Get Carter.


Hayden - Jun 01, 2007 10:42:19 am PDT #8891 of 10001
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

More spoilers:

I disliked that The Prestige had to use Real Actual Magic to get out of the corner it painted itself into. I didn't like The Illusionist because the central trick seemed callous and obvious, but the Prestige was more callous, more obvious, and the only thing surprising about the reveal was that they had to violate all natural laws to get there AND they'd already shown you that they were willing to do so. Blah.


Frankenbuddha - Jun 01, 2007 10:42:25 am PDT #8892 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

While Batman's assistant was, um, well, Batman's assistant, unless you're willing to say he was also Carter from Get Carter.

Alfie or Alfred, Michael can just can't keep way from that name.


bon bon - Jun 01, 2007 10:42:27 am PDT #8893 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

It's better than that-- Wolverine's assistant was Batman's butler. Batman's assistant was Batman.


Hayden - Jun 01, 2007 10:43:54 am PDT #8894 of 10001
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

Weird sidebar, but oddly enough we also rented Renoir's The Rules of the Game this week and Bob Bob had a hard time with it because he thought the characters were reprehensible.

Really? That's one of my all-time favorite movies, and I think the exact opposite of the characters. They do act reprehensibly sometimes, but they are fundamentally forgiveable and human.


bon bon - Jun 01, 2007 10:53:07 am PDT #8895 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I liked them too. And I think Bob's work on evil makes him oversensitive to everyday evil. But I see where he's coming from-- casual infedelity (accompanied with social acceptance of hiding it from the wife), the hunting scene, the murder, chasing someone around a party with a gun that no one seems to mind, and the General, who at one point laughingly recounts a story where someone dies of a gunshot wound and later dismisses the murder of Jarieu-- all of those things made him hate these people. Not only that, I am sure Renoir wants us to judge those characters for their casualness about the consequences of their lifestyle, even though they are portrayed charmingly.


tiggy - Jun 01, 2007 11:28:25 am PDT #8896 of 10001
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

I was bored to tears by The Prestige. i've had The Illusionist to watch for a while, but haven't gotten around to it. i suspect i'll like it more because of my affection for Edward Norton.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jun 01, 2007 11:47:35 am PDT #8897 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Am now convinced that all magicians are absolutely amoral jackholes and need to be shot.

Heh. A friend of mine was cuckolded by one of the big names in the biz (Lance Burton, I think), so I can't really argue against that interpretation.


Hayden - Jun 01, 2007 12:37:33 pm PDT #8898 of 10001
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

Not only that, I am sure Renoir wants us to judge those characters for their casualness about the consequences of their lifestyle, even though they are portrayed charmingly.

I'm split on how Renoir feels about them. There's so much wrong with their lives (and you've nailed exactly how Renoir shows it, especially the hunting scene), but I think the warmth with which he exposes their inner lives means that he isn't sure himself whether to judge them for playing the games of their social class. That ambiguity is one of the best things about the movie. I think Rules shares a certain affinity to Altman's best movies: where Altman thinks of people as petty and self-destructive, but loves them anyway, Renoir is more inclined to love people, but think of some of them as petty and self-destructive, anyway.


Scrappy - Jun 01, 2007 12:42:50 pm PDT #8899 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

: crushing on Corwood and his big brain :