Zoe: Is there any way I'm gonna get out of this with honor and dignity? Wash: You're pretty much down to ritual suicide, lambie-toes.

'War Stories'


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DXMachina - Jan 20, 2006 9:00:02 am PST #8 of 10001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Wow, that was a prolonged death.

Yeah, Movies 4 was really hamming it up at the end there.


Sean K - Jan 20, 2006 9:04:21 am PST #9 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Top ten?

Susan Sarandon has played strong all through her career, but it's not her raison d'etre.

t quietly kicks Rocky Horror Picture Show under the couch

t whistles


Frankenbuddha - Jan 20, 2006 9:11:02 am PST #10 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

quietly kicks Rocky Horror Picture Show under the couch

Yes, well this is why I said it's not her raison d'etre - she HAS played tough, but doesn't ALWAYS.

Throws baseball at Sean in honor of Annie Savoy.


Fred Pete - Jan 20, 2006 9:21:01 am PST #11 of 10001
Ann, that's a ferret.

The difference may be that, in the older days, actors (of all genders) tended to have their own niches. Typecasting, if you want to be less pleasant about it.

But I can't really think of many big old-time actresses who made a career out of playing weak women. Early Olivia de Havilland, maybe, when her primary job was co-starring for Errol Flynn.


Frankenbuddha - Jan 20, 2006 9:40:27 am PST #12 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

But I can't really think of many big old-time actresses who made a career out of playing weak women. Early Olivia de Havilland, maybe, when her primary job was co-starring for Errol Flynn.

No, but I can think of actresses who made a career out of playing ditzes.


Hayden - Jan 20, 2006 9:46:34 am PST #13 of 10001
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

Early Olivia de Havilland, maybe, when her primary job was co-starring for Errol Flynn.

That was before she was ready for her close-up.


Fred Pete - Jan 20, 2006 9:58:18 am PST #14 of 10001
Ann, that's a ferret.

I can think of actresses who made a career out of playing ditzes.

Ah, where have you gone, Billie Burke?


DebetEsse - Jan 20, 2006 10:02:30 am PST #15 of 10001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

So, I guess I should re-state to strong, smart women?


bon bon - Jan 20, 2006 10:25:10 am PST #16 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Jonathan Brandis committed suicide a couple years ago?! I completely missed this.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 20, 2006 10:32:39 am PST #17 of 10001
"You should never say bad things about the dead, only good… Joan Crawford is dead. Good.” —Bette Davis

But I can't really think of many big old-time actresses who made a career out of playing weak women. Early Olivia de Havilland, maybe, when her primary job was co-starring for Errol Flynn.

Of course, in the third film she worked on (A Midsummer Night's Dream in 1935) she played the fiercest character in the whole movie.

I can't express how disappointed I was in Callista Flockhart's whiny, petulant "poppet" rant by Hermia in comparison to de Havilland's. You could see the simmering rage about to go volcanic in her scene, with the other characters stepping back unconsciously(?) as her voice kept getting louder.