I said I'm sorry. I've made mistakes, but fear was never one of them.

Lilah ,'Conviction (1)'


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Jessica - Jan 13, 2007 9:45:38 am PST #6996 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I haven't seen the answer to that laid out, but my guess would be that he was still reeling from the drugs, and just took a wrong turn. She went down a path with an exit, he didn't, and so he had to backtrack.

But Guillermo did tell E in his interview that there's one moment in the film that can't be explained unless you believe in the fantasy, and I wonder if that's what he was talking about.


Atropa - Jan 13, 2007 9:57:07 am PST #6997 of 10001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Oh yes, it's done so perfectly that I would have been disappointed if I hadn't been able to see the ending coming -- it's a fairy tale, so it needed a fairy tale ending.

I wonder if there are going to be some viewers who, not being as thoroughly grounded in fairy tales as some of us, are going to be very upset by the ending. Okay, maybe upset isn't the right word, but who will not get it, and feel a little bit betrayed by the classical fairy-tale structure.

Y'know, I didn't even stop to think about how novel it was that the wicked step-parent trope was changed from tradition. And it should have, because we recently watched Nanny McPhee (which was pretty cute, actually), and one of the kids in that movie actually mentions how step-mothers are a bad breed, that anyone who reads knows that.

I think that anyone who would make the argument that she went down a path with an exit, and he made a wrong turn just wasn't paying attention, but I'm a bit ... inflexible in my viewpoint about How The World Works in those types of stories.

But Guillermo did tell E in his interview that
there's one moment in the film that can't be explained unless you believe in the fantasy, and I wonder if that's what he was talking about.

Oooh, I wonder. Could you please give me a link to the interview again, now that I've seen the movie and it's safe for me to read it?


Jessica - Jan 13, 2007 9:59:46 am PST #6998 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Here you go -- Deconstructing Pan's Labyrinth.


Atropa - Jan 13, 2007 10:04:04 am PST #6999 of 10001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Yay! Thank you, Jess. And please tell E for me that it was a very good interview.


SailAweigh - Jan 13, 2007 10:19:22 am PST #7000 of 10001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

I'm peeved. You've got me all wanting to see PL and none of the theatres in Madison are showing it yet. Ratsogarvy.


Anne W. - Jan 13, 2007 11:41:02 am PST #7001 of 10001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

Oh, this part of the interview (about a future project) had me squeeing mightily:

In addition, del Toro has signed on as executive producer of the long-in-the-works directorial debut of fellow fanboy favorite Neil Gaiman. (The film will be based on Gaiman's popular Death: The High Cost of Living graphic novel.)


esse - Jan 13, 2007 12:34:58 pm PST #7002 of 10001
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

It was a very good interview. He sounds like someone I'd love to meet. And Anne, I agree.


Zenkitty - Jan 13, 2007 2:02:00 pm PST #7003 of 10001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Ooh, Pan's Labyrinth is playing in Princeton! Maybe I'll see it tomorrow.


Hayden - Jan 13, 2007 2:22:51 pm PST #7004 of 10001
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

We watched Idiocracy this afternoon, which was just great in parts, but overall not as funny as a Mike Judge joint ought to be.


Jessica - Jan 13, 2007 2:28:27 pm PST #7005 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I hope he's able to release a director's cut at some point -- I'd love to see the movie Judge set out to make before the studio cut it to ribbons.