Mal: Well, you were right about this being a bad idea. Zoe: Thanks for sayin', sir.

'Serenity'


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Aims - Dec 07, 2006 1:31:29 pm PST #6343 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

t being an outwardly, contrary ass

Joe's 19 years older than his brother.


DebetEsse - Dec 07, 2006 1:32:35 pm PST #6344 of 10001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Yes, and it bears remarking on, no? If I were a reporter (or, hey, two), I know I would remark on it.

t /even more contrary


Aims - Dec 07, 2006 1:33:54 pm PST #6345 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Oh yeah?? Well ... well ... PLLLBBBBBTTTTT!!!

We should have it remade with the cast of Brokeback mountain with the wives in the Grant and Stewart roles.


Sparky1 - Dec 07, 2006 2:15:13 pm PST #6346 of 10001
Librarian Warlord

Thanks for the suggestions! I'll be passing them on. I'm very tempted to stick a Kate Hepburn movie on the list just to see if he notices.

I have to say, you all have done a much better job than the people here at the law school, who can't seem to figure out that the movies they're giving me are about foreign law not international law. I suspect it's just because fun questions like this are seem so few and far between when the dark cloud of final exams gathers over the university.


Fred Pete - Dec 07, 2006 4:28:30 pm PST #6347 of 10001
Ann, that's a ferret.

Just saw your request, Sparky. Gentleman's Agreement comes to mind. If you want something off the wall like an Errol Flynn war movie, Objective Burma! could fit (one character is killed in what could only be called torture).


DavidS - Dec 07, 2006 4:54:51 pm PST #6348 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I think Salvador would work, Sparky.

DS9 episode "Duet" is a great piece on torture. Also Death and the Maiden.


megan walker - Dec 07, 2006 5:45:11 pm PST #6349 of 10001
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

Also Death and the Maiden.

That's the one I was trying to think of! Very disturbing. Sigourney Weaver and Ben Kingsley are just amazing.


DavidS - Dec 07, 2006 6:01:37 pm PST #6350 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

That's the one I was trying to think of! Very disturbing. Sigourney Weaver and Ben Kingsley are just amazing.

Yeah, it's still a little stagey, but the performances (as you would expect from those two) are so strong. As a writer, you can only hope to have people like Kingsley and Weaver enacting your words.

Or...Emma Thompson or Cate Blanchett or Daniel Day Lewis or Gary Oldham, or....


Sparky1 - Dec 07, 2006 6:04:45 pm PST #6351 of 10001
Librarian Warlord

Continuing thanks... things like Death and the Maiden don't count, however, unless there's an international law element in it. If I remember correctly, that one, for example, takes place in an unnamed country with all domestic participants. So, there's no treaty to invoke, etc. Domestic torture? Meh.

The problem a lot of my law school suggestions had were that they were about people in a country not their own getting in trouble because of that country's domestic laws. Again, no real international law element.

We need war crimes tribunals, extraditions, treaties, etc... Agreements between nation states up for debate.


Nutty - Dec 07, 2006 6:17:01 pm PST #6352 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Well, in the Munich vein, there's always Raid on Entebbe. Not only do you get James Woods singing in Hebrew, you get Israel doing things to Ugandan airspace that I am pretty sure are really, really illegal. (In, all things considered, a well-intentioned way.)

I know there's more than one movie about refugees arriving in new countries (i.e. not just their own country beating the everliving hell outta them) and human rights, but the only title I can think of is a mediocre mid-90s movie called Turtle Bay starring Joan Chen. That's set in Indonesia, I think, but I don't remember where the refugees come from.

And there's got to be something Costa-Gavras-y that would fit this bill (I just don't know what).