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Buffista Movies 5: Development Hell  

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DebetEsse - Oct 28, 2006 9:40:38 am PDT #5207 of 10001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Thanks. That and Hugh's character being unable to drown himself in the sink both really struck me (the latter in retrospect)


eleanor - Oct 28, 2006 9:45:19 am PDT #5208 of 10001
There are no pan asian supermarkets down in hell, so you can't buy Golden Boy peanuts.

I would also love to do a Western literary classic that has been interpreted by different cultures.

Does Carmen count as a literary classic? Because then you have lots of adaptations to choose from and most of them are musicals. I know there have been some recent versions from Africa ( Karmen Gei from Senegal and another one from South Africa)... and looking through IMDB it seems every country is represented.


megan walker - Oct 28, 2006 11:03:52 am PDT #5209 of 10001
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

Does Carmen count as a literary classic? Because then you have lots of adaptations to choose from and most of them are musicals. I know there have been some recent versions from Africa ( Karmen Gei from Senegal and another one from South Africa)... and looking through IMDB it seems every country is represented.

Oooh, that is a good idea. Not only is it French, but I've actually seen multiple versions (including one with disco lighting that was frightful) and own a bi-lingual copy of the libretto. And I do really want to include more from Africa.


megan walker - Oct 28, 2006 11:11:57 am PDT #5210 of 10001
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

Also, thanks everyone for the suggestions. Keep 'em coming!

I'm feverishly looking up things on the internet and will hopefully be able to put together a decent proposal by Monday morning.


§ ita § - Oct 28, 2006 11:44:59 am PDT #5211 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

MTV also did Carmen-- a hip hopera.


Scrappy - Oct 29, 2006 11:39:16 am PST #5212 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

In The Prestige, I think the wife killed herself because she figured out about the brothers, and the thought the trick was worth sending aonoene elso home with her and their daughter on a regular basis was the ultimate humiliation.


Matt the Bruins fan - Oct 29, 2006 12:07:12 pm PST #5213 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Though my impression was that both men were "Daddy" to the little girl. They did make the point of children being able to see through magician's tricks. So, horrible for Alfred's wife to realize the truth about why her husband seemed to run hot and cold, but I think for their daughter everything was normal.


SailAweigh - Oct 29, 2006 2:44:06 pm PST #5214 of 10001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

Just saw The Departed. Wow. Just, wow. It's funny how much suspense there can be in a movie when you already know who done it. I have to admit, like ita, I got to where a lot of the bloodshed led to laughter. It was the only way, after a while, to deal with it. I haven't seen Leo in anything recently, so I have to say I was pretty impressed with him in this movie. But then, I was impressed with Damon and Wahlberg, too. Jack, was just Jack. I don't think he can give a performance anymore without a side of ham. But then, all his characters like ham, so it's not a stretch.


tommyrot - Oct 29, 2006 7:50:44 pm PST #5215 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Hey, check out the name of this possible movie:

Mick Garris, executive producer of Showtime's Masters of Horror, told SCI FI Wire that he is looking to adapt his recently published first novel, Development Hell, into a screenplay for either TV or film. "Seeing what we were able to do with Masters of Horror, it would be great to do it with an HBO or Showtime as a series of nine one-hour chapters," Garris said in an interview. "Or as a feature film. But it's ironic that I'm thinking of it that way, because the whole reason I wrote it in the first place was to not be chained to all of that stuff that you have to think about."

Garris describes Development Hell as "an extreme erotic horror novel, disguised as a Hollywood satire." The story centers on a filmmaker who encounters an underground world of the occult in Hollywood. Though the book is a work of fiction, Garris (director of TV's The Stand and The Shining) said he used his own experiences in the industry as inspiration. "There are real names that you'll find familiar in the novel, as well as situations that either I or people I know experienced certain forms of," he said. "But hopefully, it's a little more extreme than the reality."

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Frankenbuddha - Oct 30, 2006 7:41:19 am PST #5216 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Saw THE PRESTIGE and really liked it. I was spoiled rotten, so I suspect Jess may be right about a second viewing being more satisfying if you didn't know. I can't say if I would have guessed all the twists. I think I would have spotted Fallon as a twin, but Christopher Nolan said in an interview that one of the twists was meant to be figured out, not unlike some of what they were talking about in the movie of letting some of the mechanics show during the turn so that the actual prestige would be all the more impressive.

That said, I think the opening of the movie gave the game away as soon as they showed that the machine was creating doubles.

One question: why do you think Angier's first response to his double was to try and kill him? Was that what he was planning as soon as he realized what the machine could do? Also, was he just fooling himself by thinking once he started doing the act he himeself wouldn't end up as the man in the box?

I'm also curious if the created double's perception of events was that he was Angier on the stage and then suddenly somewhere else. that's certainly the impression I got.