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Buffista Movies 5: Development Hell  

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Jessica - Oct 23, 2006 4:42:48 am PDT #4818 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Plus, it was fun to listen to the people in the film arguing about whether that was Bowie or not.

See what I mean about the mustache?


IAmNotReallyASpring - Oct 23, 2006 4:59:37 am PDT #4819 of 10001
I think Freddy Quimby should walk out of here a free hotel

Saw Marie Antoinette and The Last Kiss tonight. Man, I didn't go in with great expectations for either of them, but I didn't walk out terribly satisfied either.

I saw Marie Antoinette last night too and, with reservations, thought it was pretty darn successful. I'm slowly convincing myself that I haven't ever been exposed to as many dunderhead reviews from professional critics as I have been with this film though. Hate it, fine, but don't whinge about it being stultifying in its relentless hedonism when its main concern is capturing the way relentless hedonism is stultifying.

Also, I thought Kirsten Dunst acted all good and stuff.


Jessica - Oct 23, 2006 5:06:17 am PDT #4820 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Most of the criticism of Marie Antoinette is, as far as I'm concerned, thinly veiled cattiness about Sofia Coppola herself. Some of it's not even veiled at all (coughDanaStevenscough).

Not that the film doesn't have some fairly major flaws, mind you, but it's really NOT about how much fun Sofia Coppola thinks it is to buy shoes.


IAmNotReallyASpring - Oct 23, 2006 5:15:55 am PDT #4821 of 10001
I think Freddy Quimby should walk out of here a free hotel

Some of it's not even veiled at all (coughDanaStevenscough).

Thank you. Dana Stevens and Andrew O'Hehir were the American critics I was thinking of when I wrote that. I do think it was partly about how much fun it is to buy shoes (and eat cakes and go hunting) because having fidelity to experience seems to be very important to Coppola but she was also putting that in a wider context.


shrift - Oct 23, 2006 5:24:02 am PDT #4822 of 10001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

I enjoyed The Prestige, but I really, really feel like I need to see it again before I can say how much I enjoyed it. If that makes any sense.

But my crush on David Bowie continues unabated! Of course, he'd have to lead a pogrom against cute fluffy kittens in order to put a dent in my crush at this point.


Jessica - Oct 23, 2006 5:25:45 am PDT #4823 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I think it was partly about how much fun it is to buy shoes (and eat cakes and go hunting)

Well, yes -- I'm not saying she doesn't think buying shoes is fun. But most of the really negative reviews have boiled the movie down to "OMG having money is TEH AWESOME!" which is just wrong on so many levels I don't even know where to start.


IAmNotReallyASpring - Oct 23, 2006 5:31:39 am PDT #4824 of 10001
I think Freddy Quimby should walk out of here a free hotel

shrift, have you seen this? It's the cruellest thing I've ever watched Bowie do.

Spoilers for Extras season 2.

Well, yes -- I'm not saying she doesn't think buying shoes is fun. But most of the really negative reviews have boiled the movie down to "OMG having money is TEH AWESOME!" which is just wrong on so many levels I don't even know where to start.

We share a mind on this, I'd say.


Frankenbuddha - Oct 23, 2006 5:42:25 am PDT #4825 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Well, yes -- I'm not saying she doesn't think buying shoes is fun. But most of the really negative reviews have boiled the movie down to "OMG having money is TEH AWESOME!" which is just wrong on so many levels I don't even know where to start.

Right, and which seems to translate to "OMG being an internationally renowned director is TEH AWESOME!"

Is this some kind of LOST IN TRANSLATION backlash I don't understand? I mean, I know plenty of people didn't like LiT, and those who did like it almost always LOVED it (myself included), but I never felt it had the omnipresence of acclaim or cultural cahce that fuels that kind of backlash usually.


beekaytee - Oct 23, 2006 5:43:44 am PDT #4826 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

I agree completely. Though I have to say, my one comment coming out of Marie was, "I think they had way more fun making that that I just had watching it."

I enjoy my atmospheric period pieces...Orlando, Restoration, New World, etc., but I found myself not particularly caring about anything in the film except for the pretty.

Then again, my tension-o-meter may have been broken by The Last King of Scotland."


shrift - Oct 23, 2006 5:44:16 am PDT #4827 of 10001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

I'm at work so no YouTubing for me, and I shall remain blissfully ignorant of any David Bowie cruelty.