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Buffista Movies 5: Development Hell  

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Jessica - Oct 17, 2006 5:52:20 am PDT #4753 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Bowie! As Tesla!

In latex that hides his cheekbones and a mustache hiding his upper lip! It's criminal, I tell you!

is it reasonably entertaining but not amazing, or is it too busy being clever to even be entertaining?

It's reasonably entertaining, but it spends so much effort making sure you know that this is a movie structured like a magic trick and will have a twist turn and a reveal prestige JUST LIKE A MAGIC TRICK that, if you're paying any kind of attention at all, you'll be able to figure out both tricks pretty early on.

What's really well done is how intense the rivalry between Jackman and Bale's characters is -- when they don't back down, they really don't back down, and I appreciated how far the movie was willing to take it. Mostly, I wish less had been explained. The third act is painfully drawn out, and depends on the audience not having figured out either trick to be interesting.


esse - Oct 17, 2006 6:37:10 am PDT #4754 of 10001
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

I just read the book and didn't quite get a few things by the end, so if the movie manages to clue me in I'll be pleased. I've heard mixed reviews on it, but if it's anything like the book I can't help but think it will be better than a lot of the crap out there right now.


Sean K - Oct 17, 2006 7:24:10 am PDT #4755 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Hmmm.... I was hoping for jaw-droppingly awesome, too.

On the other hand, it's nice to know that Nolan is just a human and has a so-so movie or two in him.


Jessica - Oct 17, 2006 7:28:47 am PDT #4756 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

It's also possible I'm being too hard on it. Frankly, the premise of "Ziggy Stardust helps Wolverine kick Batman's ass using THE AWESOME POWER OF ELECTRICITY" was never really going to live up to the version in my head.


Sean K - Oct 17, 2006 7:32:34 am PDT #4757 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Snerk


Sean K - Oct 17, 2006 7:36:47 am PDT #4758 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Oh, also.....

Did anyone else know that Hairspray, the culty little John Waters movie that got turned into a hit Broadway musical is being turned into......

a movie? With John Travolta in a fat suit and dress, playing the Divine/Harvey Feirstein/Bruce Villanch role.

No, I'm really not kidding.


Jessica - Oct 17, 2006 7:38:15 am PDT #4759 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Oh great, now I have to block out that memory again. Thanks Sean!


Sean K - Oct 17, 2006 7:40:28 am PDT #4760 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Always glad to help, Jess. Besides, this memory is burning through everything I'm throwing at it, so if I have to remember, I want some company.


Nutty - Oct 17, 2006 7:44:45 am PDT #4761 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

If they can make an Andrew Lloyd Webber musical out of The Woman in White, they can do anything.

The third act is painfully drawn out, and depends on the audience not having figured out either trick to be interesting.

So, the answer is, I should be about half-drunk when I walk into the movie, and I will enjoy it. (Movies where I figure out the ending too soon tend to annoy the crap out of me.) For The Illusionist, I figured it out pretty early on, but was half-convinced that the how of it wasn't the point, and anyway there was Edward Norton being mournful and Paul Giamatti being fussy and all manner of fin-de-siecle Viennese confusion and who doesn't like that??

Also, bowler hats.


Gris - Oct 17, 2006 7:44:45 am PDT #4762 of 10001
Hey. New board.

The John Travolta bit sucks. Other than that, I have no problem with it - Hairspray is more likely to make a better second movie than The Producers did, anyway.