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Buffista Movies 5: Development Hell  

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Cashmere - Sep 26, 2006 4:26:23 am PDT #4513 of 10001
Now tagless for your comfort.

Some great imagery, but that movie made no fucking sense. You reach a tipping point in movies when the critical mass of the non-sense making is achieved and you start to question even the things that you'd thought were basic assumptions at the beginning of the movie.

OMG--YESSSS! I'm so glad I'm not alone in this.


Ailleann - Sep 26, 2006 4:27:43 am PDT #4514 of 10001
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

I'm so glad I'm not alone in this.

You're not. The imagery was very cool, and I loved the subtitles. I even grasped the basic plot and I still had no idea wtf.


Volans - Sep 26, 2006 4:51:56 am PDT #4515 of 10001
move out and draw fire

You got subtitles? I got dubbed. Which was interesting, because the English was Russo-fied: "What building you in?" I always prefer sub-titles though, so I can hear the actual actor saying the line.


Ailleann - Sep 26, 2006 5:05:36 am PDT #4516 of 10001
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

Yeah, the subtitles weren't just yellow text, but actually were worked into the film. They'd change color, or turn into mist and float away, or the actor would move in front of them. Very cool, but didn't help a whole lot with the sense-making.


Cashmere - Sep 26, 2006 5:08:25 am PDT #4517 of 10001
Now tagless for your comfort.

You got subtitles? I got dubbed. Which was interesting, because the English was Russo-fied: "What building you in?" I always prefer sub-titles though, so I can hear the actual actor saying the line.

I got Raq's version--which may very well have caused some of the understanding problems. I might have understood a little more if I could have understood a little more.


Matt the Bruins fan - Sep 26, 2006 5:46:29 am PDT #4518 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Ah, Nochnoi Dozor. I think I was able to follow the main plot, but there was a lot of nonsensical stuff along the way. And I never understood how the Virgin of Byzantium could have been cursed in the first place if it was the vortex developing around her that spawned all the sorcerers and vampires and other supernatural creatures. Also, didn't get how those vampires Anton hunted down could safely elude him in The Gloom considering how dangerous it was when he and Olga traversed it for just a few seconds.

Oh well, can't wait until Дневной Дозор is released in the US.


Glamcookie - Sep 26, 2006 8:27:38 am PDT #4519 of 10001
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

We watched The Devil and Daniel Johnston last night. I'm not a Daniel Johnston fan (though Speeding Motorcycle as done by Yo La Tengo was pretty sweet), but the movie was good. His poor parents.


Volans - Sep 26, 2006 8:55:19 am PDT #4520 of 10001
move out and draw fire

I never understood how the Virgin of Byzantium could have been cursed in the first place

OK, this I got: They said that she was cursed by a normal person. "A mortal cursed another mortal, and from that the Dark was created." I thought the second go-round was kind of stupid, though - huge build-up and OMGWTFWe'reAllGonnaDie (and I kind of thought the armies would welcome the Final Battle but whatever) and then, "Oh! I did it, and I take it back and it's all okay now."

didn't get how those vampires Anton hunted down could safely elude him in The Gloom considering how dangerous it was when he and Olga traversed it for just a few seconds.

Exactly. And why didn't Vampire Girl traverse it herself then? Maybe it's only dangerous to the NightWatch? And Undeclared Others?

And why was it such a big deal that Anton killed Andre? I mean, Andre was totally attacking him, with apparent intent to kill.

And WTF Olga? Again, a lot of build-up about what a silent and deadly killer the owl is, and Big Light Guy gives the owl to Anton to defend him, be his partner, and Owlga does jack-all. Aside from molt and sew. And count down the time in The Gloom.

And why didn't Anton have any clothes? Just plastic. Weird and clearly a thing, but huh?

Of course, leave it to the Russians to cast the Dark as mafia and the Light as bureaucrats. The two sides were pretty much Dark and Dark Grey. And of course it was paperwork that sealed the deal in the end.


sumi - Sep 26, 2006 10:27:11 am PDT #4521 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Hey, Juliet Landau is in an adaptation of The Yellow Wallpaper.


Matt the Bruins fan - Sep 26, 2006 10:33:01 am PDT #4522 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Clearly, they wanted the kid gloves to come off for that portrayal of the Crazy.