Well, I won't be going to see it either, just because it's Oliver Stone. However, I don't necessarily think that just because a movie is made soon after an event it should be exploitative. Movies aren't just entertainment. Sometimes they're not even entertainment. Sometimes they're just to teach, or commemorate. I personally think that for these events a documentary might achieve that more tastefully, but I haven't seen the film, so...
Yes. Men like sports. Men watch the action movie, they eat of the beef, and enjoy to look at the bosoms. A thousand years of avenging our wrongs and that's all you've learned?
Xander ,'End of Days'
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Jars - Aug 05, 2006 12:37:52 pm PDT #3346 of 10001
§ ita § - Aug 05, 2006 12:58:50 pm PDT #3347 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I think part of it for me is that I've ODed on those visuals. I liked Three Kings, for instance, and that was very close to its time--and a war movie which normally freaks me out.
The towers? I've seen them fall a hundred times. From many different angles. I watched until I was so sick I couldn't turn away. I saw the people around react--I saw the horror of hundreds if not thousands. I listened to tales of heroism, choked at the tears of survivors.
Oliver Stone has nothing to add.
erikaj - Aug 05, 2006 1:02:56 pm PDT #3348 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!
And it doesn't have Jesus and Mary Mag running off in a yellow sportscar like "Rescue Me". As far as I know.
Jesse - Aug 05, 2006 5:20:43 pm PDT #3349 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
I saw Little Miss Sunshine today, and it was just great. But here's a thing about people at the movies that makes me nuts: (I assume) Because the movie was billed as a comedy, and because Steve Carrell is known as a comic actor, people started laughing at scenes of him that were NOT AT ALL FUNNY. They were the opposite of funny. And yet? Guffaws from elsewhere in the audience. WTF, people.
-t - Aug 05, 2006 5:22:56 pm PDT #3350 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
I have a theory that laugh tracks running under unfunny "jokes" on TV have messed up many a sense of humor.
erikaj - Aug 05, 2006 6:19:42 pm PDT #3351 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!
I have heard that said, yeah.
Jesse - Aug 05, 2006 6:43:07 pm PDT #3352 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
Yeah, I can see that. In this case, it was really serious, but I think people were prepared for it to be funny, and just... no.
erikaj - Aug 05, 2006 7:01:12 pm PDT #3353 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!
It's funny, not a laugh-riot.
Jesse - Aug 05, 2006 7:05:24 pm PDT #3354 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
Did you see it, Erika? I mean in like Carrell's second scene (or so).
erikaj - Aug 05, 2006 7:14:24 pm PDT #3355 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!
No...haven't yet. Just wasn't sure I understood. I think some of Robin Williams' performances before he became "smiling through tears" guy got similar treatment once. But even that guy that he plays on "The Office" is kind of sad on one level, because he thinks he gets it so well and he misses the mark so badly. But it's not completely his show so we can laugh at him.