Mal: And I never back down from a fight. Inara: Yes, you do! You do all the time!

'Shindig'


Buffista Movies 5: Development Hell  

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Megan E. - Jul 29, 2006 4:05:49 pm PDT #3235 of 10001

How many people sat through the entire credits to see the extra scene?

i did!


DavidS - Jul 29, 2006 4:12:22 pm PDT #3236 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

How many people sat through the entire credits to see the extra scene?

We did.

Incidentally, my current theory about Pirates is that it was a movie designed for fandom. It spent a lot of time on world-building and lore and triangulating the relationships and making the characters murkier. All fandom fodder.

The first movie had less of that. This one seemed consciously designed to make a LoTR (movie edition anyway) type world.


Lee - Jul 29, 2006 4:14:19 pm PDT #3237 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

What Hec said, and then the second time I saw it, I made Juliana and Suzi stay while I went to pee.


Jessica - Jul 29, 2006 4:30:08 pm PDT #3238 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

It spent a lot of time on world-building and lore and triangulating the relationships and making the characters murkier.

From where I was sitting, it spent a lot of time on special-effects-driven set pieces, and with no attention paid to character or story development at all. Your "murkier" is my "made both inconsistent and incoherent for the sake of cheap laughs and filler."


Vonnie K - Jul 29, 2006 4:30:26 pm PDT #3239 of 10001
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

Trailer for Scorsese's The Departed, the American remake of Infernal Affairs: [link]

Huh. For some reason, I thought Matt Damon was playing the undercover cop and DiCaprio the mole in the police. It's the other way around. The trailer's not really singing to me, but then, I loved the original A LOT. Not sure how much of Tony Leung's soulfulness DiCaprio would be able to capture.


Ailleann - Jul 29, 2006 4:33:12 pm PDT #3240 of 10001
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

I stayed the first time (with much protest from my friend who wanted a cig), skipped the second for a restroom break.

I agree with what Hec said about building a fandom. Murkiness abounds, all for the purpose to lead into the third movie.


ChiKat - Jul 29, 2006 4:37:30 pm PDT #3241 of 10001
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

From where I was sitting, it spent a lot of time on special-effects-driven set pieces, and with no attention paid to character or story development at all. Your "murkier" is my "made both inconsistent and incoherent for the sake of cheap laughs and filler."

I'm sitting with Jessica. Because of the time spent away from character development, I found I didn't care about the characters at all. For me, movies and tv are about character and I was disappointed in this movie.


quester - Jul 29, 2006 4:46:14 pm PDT #3242 of 10001
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

RE: Pirates - I loved the muddling up of the characters. And, I know it was kind of bloated but so was the first one. It was all good by me.

A friend at work thought the ending was abrupt, but I thought it was just right. I liked the way familiar characters kept popping up in unexpected places.


Jessica - Jul 29, 2006 4:50:38 pm PDT #3243 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I saw both Scoop and Monster House today, and was quite surprised that I liked Scoop much, much, MUCH more than MH. MH is probably the better-made film, but it takes a turn in the third act that would have made me walk out if I'd been there alone. (As I had no interest in sitting out in the hall waiting for DH, I stuck it out, but it never redeemed itself.)

Scoop was the only Woody Allen comedy I've really liked since probably Deconstructing Harry. (Sweet & Lowdown and Match Point not being straight comedies.) It's not great by any stretch of the imagination, but it's pleasantly diverting, and Woody himself is funnier than he's been in years. The jokes are mostly recycled material from his older, better (early, funny) movies, but they're well-told and fun to watch. The main problem here is that he's obvious going deaf, and so the timing of the dialogue is all about half a beat slower than it should be.

I can't really talk about my issues with Monster House without spoiling it, so I won't. In the third act, something is revealed that changes the film's entire worldview in a way I found unforgiveably offensive. I'm sure it was unintentional, but that just makes it condescending rather than malicious. Like I said above, the only reason I didn't walk out was because I didn't want to spend the last half-hour of the movie sitting in the hallway waiting.


sj - Jul 29, 2006 6:06:09 pm PDT #3244 of 10001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Incidentally, my current theory about Pirates is that it was a movie designed for fandom. It spent a lot of time on world-building and lore and triangulating the relationships and making the characters murkier. All fandom fodder.

I agree. I think that they knew the audience this time around and really played up those things that they thought that audience would like. I still need to see it again.