I hope you don't think that I just come over for the spells and everything. I mean, I really like just talking and hanging out with you and stuff.

Willow ,'First Date'


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Aims - Jul 26, 2006 6:16:58 am PDT #3137 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Kevin Smith

Well, technically, that's not speaking.

Heh.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 26, 2006 6:51:56 am PDT #3138 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Believe me, if A Sound of Thunder is an indication of what Ed Burns movies will be like when he makes a choice between acting or directing, we want him pulling double duty.


Hayden - Jul 26, 2006 6:58:12 am PDT #3139 of 10001
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

...at the Dairy Queen.


§ ita § - Jul 26, 2006 6:58:36 am PDT #3140 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It's not the hubris of casting yourself that bothers me--it's how you cast yourself that counts, and from all the telling of it, it's a thinly veiled Mary Sue.

Being the misunderstood guy that gets the marvellous girl is more palatable a wish fulfillment scenario for me than the writer who's of tremendous importance to world peace and whatever.


Strega - Jul 26, 2006 6:59:15 am PDT #3141 of 10001

the rest of the list were performers before they became directors.

Does that make a difference? If it's okay to use your success as an actor to try directing, why isn't it okay to use your success as a director to try acting?

Even if you limit it to people who were directors "first", are Shymalan's acting indulgences that notable? Because I feel like he's taken a disproportionate amount of flak for it.

(Thank you for adding Tarantino, I don't know how he slipped my mind.)


Hayden - Jul 26, 2006 6:59:53 am PDT #3142 of 10001
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

I think ita's hit the nail on the head as far as I can see. Messianic complex plus persecution complex minus talent equals douchebag.


bon bon - Jul 26, 2006 7:01:36 am PDT #3143 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Does that make a difference? If it's okay to use your success as an actor to try directing, why isn't it okay to use your success as a director to try acting?

Probably because a director has the power to cast himself as an actor, and not the reverse.


Polter-Cow - Jul 26, 2006 7:03:39 am PDT #3144 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Even if you limit it to people who were directors "first", are Shymalan's acting indulgences that notable? Because I feel like he's taken a disproportionate amount of flak for it.

I think it may be disproportionate. Signs bugged me because it was such a huge jump from his small cameos in the first two movies, and it seemed unnecessary. And then, for the hell of it, he went the other way and only made a vocal cameo in The Village. I actually like all his movies for the most part, though.


Hayden - Jul 26, 2006 7:04:28 am PDT #3145 of 10001
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

Frankly, I think Renoir's The Rules of the Game proves that a director with no history of acting can successfully cast himself in a major role in a major movie (one of the best ever created, in fact) and make it even better.

But Shyamalan is no Renoir.


§ ita § - Jul 26, 2006 7:06:33 am PDT #3146 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I despise Tarantino's casting of himself (and anyone else casting him too) because he's a hugely awful actor. That's the other reason that sucks.