Oh, I get it. You just don't like who did the rescuing, that's all. Wishin' I was your boyfriend what's-his-height. Oh wait, he's run off.

Spike ,'Potential'


Buffista Movies 5: Development Hell  

A place to talk about movies--old and new, good and bad, high art and high cheese. It's the place to place your kittens on the award winners, gossip about upcoming fims and discuss DVD releases and extras. Spoiler policy: White font all plot-related discussion until a movie's been in wide release two weeks, and keep the major HSQ in white font until two weeks after the video/DVD release.


sj - Jul 08, 2006 5:27:11 pm PDT #2811 of 10001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Funnily, the first movie bothered me because I grew near a (the?) Port Royal which was a hotbed of piracy--the pirate capital of the world, and one of the richest cities in the Americas. So it was jarring to see their Port Royal, peaceful, and with dramatic cliff coastlines.

I just watched a History Channel special on Port Royal, and it was jarring to hear them call it that, because it was not the city of the movie at all.

Agreeing with Betsy's whitefont.


Polter-Cow - Jul 08, 2006 5:56:25 pm PDT #2812 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Talking with a friend and remembering one of the best parts of the movie: "The Man on the Flying Trapeze" done in the style of the film score. So awesome.


Gris - Jul 08, 2006 7:23:33 pm PDT #2813 of 10001
Hey. New board.

As I'm always a couple of weeks behind, this weekend I saw Supes. I wanted to see the Devil Wears Prada, but it was sold out (whereas Superman is still playing on FIVE screens at the local Loews. Because they're not showing POTC I guess.)

Went back and read the whitefont. Mostly, I'm with ita - this wasn't my movie. I didn't think it was bad, by any means, and there were a few moments I pretty much loved, mostly inside-jokey stuff like the "It's a bird." "It's a plane." "No, look, it's..." moment. And I liked that he rescued Lois in a space-plane disaster, for comic history's sake. Parker Posey was great. And I actually really liked Kate Bosworth, but she's so completely my type, physically, that my brain may be on "want!" mode more than evaluation mode in that judgment.

Bad things: the Plan was painfully dumb, the angst scenes and action scenes were generally too long and laid on too heavily, and I don't like the idea of a Superman Baby at all. I came out feeling kind of "So?" about it. And my butt hurt, but I blame myself arriving too late to sit far enough back for that.


erikaj - Jul 08, 2006 7:42:41 pm PDT #2814 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

Reviewer: Frankly, this movie made my ass hurt. I really shouldn't have had the chance to think that so frequently...it was a little slow, too.Ha.


Polter-Cow - Jul 08, 2006 7:47:07 pm PDT #2815 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I really like this post off my flist about POTC 2 and various themes and motifs and what worked and didn't in the movie.


sumi - Jul 08, 2006 7:59:14 pm PDT #2816 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Lots of people wanted to see the Space Monkeys.


Volans - Jul 08, 2006 8:00:57 pm PDT #2817 of 10001
move out and draw fire

Reminded me of the escalation that happened in LoTR from the cave troll fight (perfect!) to Legolas taking down the Olyphaunt (animated overkill).

OK, I still can't read the whitefont on POTC2 (although The Flick Filosopher spoiled me for some stuff, damn her eyes), but this statement I can wholeheartedly agree with.


DebetEsse - Jul 08, 2006 8:03:53 pm PDT #2818 of 10001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Remember when Legolas did that split-second "wait, how did he get up on that horse?" freaky Elf thing? That was kinda nifty.

Stupid boys with their "wouldn't it be cool if we did this?" t kicks oliphaunt


DavidS - Jul 08, 2006 9:12:28 pm PDT #2819 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

From P-Cow's link:

Keys! - organ keys, Gov.'s shackles, Eliz in jail

When Will was poking around Davy Jones' tentacles with the quill and stick, someone behind me whispered, "Watch the keys!" I couldn't figure out why the person had pluralized the key around Jones' neck until the tentacles hit the organ, and then I went "OH A MOTIF!"

So, keys and locks. Jones' key and chest, obviously. The organ keys on the Flying Dutchman. Elizabeth, Will, and Governer Swann in alternating shackles and jail cells. Each unlocked with keys -- Elizabeth doesn't break out of jail, Gov. Swann unlocks her door. The dog swimming with the jail keys. Elizabeth shackling Jack to the Black Pearl, which I think may be the one time in the movie that something is locked and not opened via key. Tia the Voodoo Woman unlocks Jack the Monkey's cage. I'm sure there's more.

I'm thinking the theme is freedom.


Strega - Jul 08, 2006 10:22:09 pm PDT #2820 of 10001

I'm thinking the theme is freedom.

For those who don't want to register, another bit from the BOM interview:

Box Office Mojo: What is the meaning of the series?

Ted Elliott: It's a study of what is a pirate. How free can you really be? What are those trade-offs? Jack kind of represents the ultimate free man—he really has no obligations to anybody, and, obviously, if you make an obligation to somebody, you're limiting your own freedom. But, if you're not willing to limit your own freedom, you can't have those relationships. If you look at Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest from that point of view, you kind of see what really leads to Jack's ultimate fate and why Elizabeth does what she does.