Uh, my notion was that it was Elizabeth. I don't think a spot of underhandedness would bother Jack. (He'd do the same.)
Reavers ain't men. Or they forgot how to be. Now they're just nothing. They got out to the edge of the galaxy, to that place of nothing, and that's what they became.
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sumi - Jul 08, 2006 3:36:14 pm PDT #2791 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!
DavidS - Jul 08, 2006 3:39:05 pm PDT #2792 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Huh. That didn't seem that strong to me, but they definitely did set some of that up.
Betsy HP - Jul 08, 2006 3:48:14 pm PDT #2793 of 10001
If I only had a brain...
I understood the woman just fine.
If there's a documented Carib culture, then I'll give myself a pass.
Lee - Jul 08, 2006 3:58:36 pm PDT #2794 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
For those of you who know my ScruffyWes love, it will come as no surprise that I am pretty much Norrington's bitch now. (edited just in case that counts as a spoiler)
As for the rest of the movie, the racial stuff bothered me a bit too, but maybe not as much as it should have, and not enough to stop me from liking the movie a hell of a lot. Not as much as the first one, which I bet I will be rewatching tonight, but still a lot.
Strega - Jul 08, 2006 4:10:22 pm PDT #2795 of 10001
I'm confused with oyceter's implication that it's racist because all the black characters have strong accents, given that it's set in the 17th C. Caribbean. t seems worse to me to suggest that characters can't be, I dunno, "acceptable," unless they speak with a nice middle-American accent.
And yeah, I thought the priestess/witch was perfectly clear. I had trouble with the guy in the rowboat who made Will swim to the island but I think that was more because he spoke quickly. Though nobody should tell Fay that the most evil human character is British.
Hec, I think my idea at the time was that Elizabeth was right, that he wanted to try being noble. . I'm not convinced of that, though. Alternatively, there's something inside the Kraken, or at World's End. I think the compass pointing to Jack when Elizabeth holds it is that kind of, er, misdirection, though. What's your theory?
--Oh! Wait! He wants to talk to Keith Richards, and he has to die to do that!
Lee, I was thinking he was sorta Wesley-like. Heh.
§ ita § - Jul 08, 2006 4:13:41 pm PDT #2796 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
The guy in the rowboat...you know, that guy in that rowboat was speaking French, wasn't he? I understood him, so it's hard for me to be sure in retrospect (I remember what I understood better than what I heard).
Lee - Jul 08, 2006 4:17:10 pm PDT #2797 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
I thought he was speaking French, ita.
DavidS - Jul 08, 2006 4:26:23 pm PDT #2798 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
What's your theory?
Based on minor spoilers in EW, so don't read if you want to be pure: the third movie will address the end of the piracy era. Which was hinted at in the movie - "the world's getting smaller" etc. I think it is the very freedom of piracy that Jack is devoted to. The one thing he might turn from selfish motives to preserve.
§ ita § - Jul 08, 2006 4:30:36 pm PDT #2799 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Did I mention I loved the effects? I thought Bill Nighy was wonderfully wonderfully Nighy. We were a little close to the screen, so some of the fight choreography almost needed head movements to track. But I loved what they did with the waterwheel, especially the key. I mean, when they got near it, I thought "Hey! They need to use that!" But I had no idea how much or how coolly.
Melpomene - Jul 08, 2006 4:31:31 pm PDT #2800 of 10001
Ever fired your gun in the air and yelled, 'Aaaaaaah?'
I thought he was speaking French, too. It had stood out to me for some reason. I'm glad to see all the Scruffy Norrington love. Most of the effects were fantastic. I loved the way Davey's crew would appear out of no where and the suctioning of Davey's tentacles. I'm a little weirded out that I found Davey Jones to be kinda cute. I'm going to comfort myself that it's because I know it's Bill Nighy.