...because God knows you need some satisfaction in life besides shagging Captain Cardboard! And I never really liked you anyway. And you have stupid hair!

Spike ,'Selfless'


Buffista Movies 5: Development Hell  

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Kalshane - Jul 02, 2006 8:31:36 pm PDT #2610 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Saw Superman Returns with the girlfriend on Saturday and enjoyed it muchly. There were some plotholes and some minor things that bugged, but overall it was good stuff.

I adore the PVP "review". [link]


§ ita § - Jul 02, 2006 10:34:40 pm PDT #2611 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Saw Superman Returns, and it wasn't my movie. I thought the action scenes rocked, as long as you did the requisite ignoration of structural integrity limitations (though I did wince whenever he lifted people, because that's GOTTA hurt--especially the lifting of the whole family by one arm). It's the acting scenes that I couldn't get into. I just think Routh looked either like a dork or truly disturbing. I've never bought anything James Marsden was trying to sell me. Bosworth came off the best, but it's not a big best. If the kid was trying to be Omen creepy, then he out-acted them all. I just wasn't sure that's where they were going. Although it would make him a chip off the old block--Supes was creepier than Batman there.


amych - Jul 03, 2006 4:19:16 am PDT #2612 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

I agree that Routh was disturbing-looking, but it somehow worked for me. It played off the alien thing very well.


§ ita § - Jul 03, 2006 4:27:38 am PDT #2613 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I wasn't thinking alien so much as WB.

Also--I was thinking about the dual persona thing as portrayed in this movie...you could come away with the impression that he's the suit, since putting on the glasses didn't seem to make it look like he was ACTING the dork. He just was.


Jessica - Jul 03, 2006 4:34:55 am PDT #2614 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I agree that Routh was disturbing-looking, but it somehow worked for me. It played off the alien thing very well.

This, for me. I really wasn't expecting to like him at all, but somehow his performance really worked for me. The scene in the Planet offices when his glasses fall off and he stares at Lois for a moment...wow. Total gut-punch moment there.

Quickly followed, of course, by a moment where I wondered where all of his suits came from, and if the janitor ever complained about constantly having to clean them off the bottom of the elevator shaft.


amych - Jul 03, 2006 4:55:08 am PDT #2615 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Ha! I had your second thought as well, Jess.


§ ita § - Jul 03, 2006 4:59:31 am PDT #2616 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I saw where the emotional moments were, I just didn't feel most of them. I think Parker Posey's character got to me more than anyone else's.

When his glasses fell off, all I could think of was how lousy a disguise that was, if they came off that easily. As for suits, I wondered how the medics (who I supposed hooked up monitors to him for their own peace of mind, since he's a fricking alien, and who knows what healthy looks like? STAR labs, how we miss ye) got his suit off in a way that let him put it back on so tidily. Unless he was wearing a backup. I didn't check for the wound tear.


DebetEsse - Jul 03, 2006 5:25:31 am PDT #2617 of 10001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

I was very much in the WHY are you taking him to a hospital? Ok, sure, no where else to go (although I'd go with a sunny field somewhere), but for the love of Krypton, what possible good are the doctors in the ER going to be able to do for him? camp. It confused me, so logic and the movie had already parted company before I got to that bit, ita.


sumi - Jul 03, 2006 5:41:33 am PDT #2618 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Animated Dragonlance movies well - at least one - is coming.


Kalshane - Jul 03, 2006 5:43:40 am PDT #2619 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

I chalk up to the authorities don't know any better. I felt it was a sort of "We have no idea what to do, so we're just going to do the best we can" thing. The various superhero movies tend to ignore the rest of their respective comic universes. So no other heroes, no Star Labs etc.

Still, I was sitting there watching the movie going "Open the damn window and let some sunlight in."