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Zenkitty - Jun 29, 2006 8:36:07 am PDT #2566 of 10001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I dislike rotoscope animation intensely. It's Uncanny Valley territory for me.

I stopped reading Spiderman comics before Venom came along. Maybe I should go do some research. What are the "Ultimate" versions?


Polter-Cow - Jun 29, 2006 8:51:28 am PDT #2567 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

They're kind of "modern" retellings of the Marvel canon. They started, what, four or five years ago? But everything is reset in the Ultimate universe, so the writers get to do things differently yet still tell some rockin' stories.

Ultimate Spider-Man is written by Brian Michael Bendis, who is awesome and horribly prolific like nobody's business.


Sean K - Jun 29, 2006 9:34:49 am PDT #2568 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I dislike rotoscope animation intensely. It's Uncanny Valley territory for me.

I get an Uncanny Valley feeling sometimes from Bakshi's rotoscoping, though I still like it. I thought he used it to good effect, rotoscoping over footage from WWI and II for Wizards and Lord of the Rings (though I dislike some of the other things he did with his LotR).

I don't get that Uncanny Valley feeling from Linklater's rotoscoping technique. I think that style really suits the films it's been/being used on.


Jessica - Jun 29, 2006 9:51:59 am PDT #2569 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I think that style really suits the films it's been/being used on.

Totally. There are a few things in Scanner that I can't imagine being done as well with live action, but you also get to watch real actors' real performances. There are some really subtle visual effects achieved just in the way that he plays with depth perception here.

(I thoroughly loathed Waking Life, but that wasn't the fault of the animation. I thought the animation was beautiful, and it was a shame it was being wasted on such a monumentally pretentious piece of crap.)


Zenkitty - Jun 29, 2006 9:59:11 am PDT #2570 of 10001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Guess I'll check out Scanner. And Ultimate.

I don't have time for my job.


Kalshane - Jun 29, 2006 11:27:29 am PDT #2571 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

I dislike rotoscope animation intensely. It's Uncanny Valley territory for me.

Yes, this. It also makes me feel like the animators are just being lazy. I absolutely hated it in the Bakashi LotR (not that there was much to like in it) and those current commericals that use it drive me up the wall.

Ultimate Spider-Man is written by Brian Michael Bendis, who is awesome and horribly prolific like nobody's business.

Yup. I absolutely love Ultimate Spider-man. It had a brief slump for few issues awhile back, but other than that it's been consistently really good. (Unlike, say, Ultimate X-Men which seems to be all over the place in both art and writing, but it manages to get better again every time I start thinking about dropping it.)


Jessica - Jun 29, 2006 11:42:29 am PDT #2572 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

It also makes me feel like the animators are just being lazy.

Having done a little rotoscoping in the past, I cannot stress enough how strongly I disagree with this. It's hard.


Kalshane - Jun 29, 2006 1:02:39 pm PDT #2573 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Having done a little rotoscoping in the past, I cannot stress enough how strongly I disagree with this. It's hard.

I'll take your word for it.

ION, I'm not sure what to think of this: [link]


Polter-Cow - Jun 29, 2006 1:06:12 pm PDT #2574 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Hee. The writer's written a lot of Smallville and some BSG episodes (one good, one craptacular, and one finale).


P.M. Marc - Jun 29, 2006 1:11:49 pm PDT #2575 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Dude! I love Mark Verheiden.

Or rather, his work on Superman was pretty effin' solid, though the art on his first issue of Superman/Batman made it hard for me to actually read the story.