I wouldn't consider myself a fan of Westerns. In fact, I'm trying to think of a Western I've actually seen...
Not really coming up with anything. Unless some of Kurosaki's stuff counts.
That's not what making out sounds like -- unless I'm doing it wrong?
Willow ,'Same Time, Same Place'
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Dana - Jun 06, 2006 8:57:17 am PDT #2059 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.
lisah - Jun 06, 2006 9:01:39 am PDT #2060 of 10001
Punishingly Intricate
Love the Wire and Deadwood. Hated 6 Feet Under (but was sometimes unable to stop watching it) and never got into Carnivale. ftr.
Polter-Cow - Jun 06, 2006 9:02:32 am PDT #2061 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
Unless some of Kurosaki's stuff counts.
You mean Kurosawa?
Dana - Jun 06, 2006 9:10:45 am PDT #2062 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.
Whoa. I even stopped, thought about it, and went ahead with the name. Clearly, I've been too immersed in Yami No Matsuei (for an additional reference no one will get).
Yes, thank you, Kurosawa.
Nutty - Jun 06, 2006 9:55:07 am PDT #2063 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
I think Kurosawa does not deserve to be all lumped in with westerns. Just because he stole a lot of their best moves -- it's a stealy world, the movie world. And the western stole plenty back over the years.
(Sadly, they did not steal back the whole thing with Toshiro Mifune in really short shorts and knees socks, because, really, there is a dearth of bare male thighs in most classic westerns, don't you think? Some of the spear-fighting might have been nice as well.)
I've read a lot about how wonderful Deadwood is, and I'm sure it is, but there are some thing I have trouble getting past, and uncouthness for uncouthness's sake is one of those things.
DavidS - Jun 06, 2006 10:06:45 am PDT #2064 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
and uncouthness for uncouthness's sake is one of those things.
It is not there for its own sake. As in Shakespeare, Joss or Tom Waits, the language is specific and world-building in its own right. It embeds meaning through its metaphors and it is a world where cocks get pickled in cunt brine. This is, of course, the language of comedy, the language of human fleshy mess - the shit cock piss world - and to turn that to darker ends is very artful.
Strega - Jun 06, 2006 10:14:24 am PDT #2065 of 10001
My mom once confused Kurosawa with Kiri Te Kanawa.
I think Kurosawa does not deserve to be all lumped in with westernsI don't understand what you mean by "deserve." Are genre classifications somehow insulting?
erikaj - Jun 06, 2006 11:12:21 am PDT #2066 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!
Wow, Hec, that was clever. Not that I'm surprised or anything, but it was pithy and stuff, too.
Nutty - Jun 06, 2006 11:17:33 am PDT #2067 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
Kurosawa disappears in the expanse of westerns, of which many many. In the expanse of Japanese auterist western-inspirations, he kinda stands out. Fish, pond size, you know.
Hec, you see, what you write above? People tried that with me, with Deadwood, and, yeah, no. I'm sure it's my loss, but, sure sounds like uncouthness for uncouthness's sake to me.
erikaj - Jun 06, 2006 11:22:48 am PDT #2068 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!
No, I think that's Nip/Tuck. Which I also watch now and then, but I don't think Surgeon Hottie licking cocaine off a model's navel is supposed to say very much, thematically.(He has a pretty mouth, though. Amazing teeth.) I think it's different with Deadwood even if it still makes me like "oh, dear lord," a lot.