Well, if we followed the recipe...should be cake. A demon-violence-free-zone cake.

Lorne ,'Why We Fight'


Buffista Movies 5: Development Hell  

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Frankenbuddha - Mar 28, 2006 7:33:38 am PST #1193 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

My best friend was pissed at Snakes On A Plane. She thought it was horrible that they were trying to create a cult classic. That it should be a natural thing that can't be forced.

I tried to explain to her that it was already a cult classic--that they were trying to make sure it stayed that way once people had seen it.

She remained unamused.

I am amused by her disamusement (not a word? frell it!), given that the quality of a film has almost nothing to do with whether it becomes a cult classic or not.

Granted, this is probably the first time it's happened before anyone but the filmmakers have seen it (producer/auteur-supressed films like THE DAY THE CLOWN CRIED aside), but if it wasn't the first time, I wouldn't be surprised.


Volans - Mar 28, 2006 7:34:13 am PST #1194 of 10001
move out and draw fire

I'm the only person in my meatspace that's heard of it, and I doubt that's going to change. I think I could talk about it, and all any listener would hear would be Charlie Brown's teacher.

Although, they may have to listen, since I really want to use Bob's Aquinas comparison, attributed of course.


§ ita § - Mar 28, 2006 7:35:20 am PST #1195 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

She's an independent filmmaker, and gets kinda pissed at some Hollywood shenanigans. She's in the middle of filming on a shoestring budget (what's the etymology of that??) and is reeling at the amount of money and attention that's being thrown at a movie that's unlikely to be any good.


Polter-Cow - Mar 28, 2006 7:36:58 am PST #1196 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I tried to explain to her that it was already a cult classic--that they were trying to make sure it stayed that way once people had seen it.

Yeah, I'm sure they didn't intend for it to become the phenomenon that it's become, but they're certainly going to run with it.


Polter-Cow - Mar 28, 2006 7:42:38 am PST #1197 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

She's in the middle of filming on a shoestring budget (what's the etymology of that??)

In the late 1930s, Phineas T. Grantula very quickly ran out of money for his first film, Snakes in a Zoo, and he had to resort to the barter system, trading his shoestrings for location shoots. He very quickly ran out of shoestrings as well, which is when he turned to clubbing people on the street and stealing their shoes. Rather than, say, their wallets. In the end, Snakes in a Zoo was a flop anyway, opening the same weekend as Snakes Not in a Zoo, which made 800,000 nickels on opening night.


Frankenbuddha - Mar 28, 2006 7:46:06 am PST #1198 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

In the late 1930s, Phineas T. Grantula very quickly ran out of money for his first film, Snakes in a Zoo, and he had to resort to the barter system, trading his shoestrings for location shoots. He very quickly ran out of shoestrings as well, which is when he turned to clubbing people on the street and stealing their shoes. Rather than, say, their wallets. In the end, Snakes in a Zoo was a flop anyway, opening the same weekend as Snakes Not in a Zoo, which made 800,000 nickels on opening night.

Heh. Shoestring budgets always remind me of how John Waters claimed his early movies (including PINK FLAMINGOS) were financed by shoplifting. Even putting aside the grossout moments, it always looked like he might have been telling the truth.


lori - Mar 28, 2006 10:41:46 am PST #1199 of 10001

LATimes story on SoaP [link]

You can probably view the awesome fan-created posters gallery without logging in.


Mr. Broom - Mar 28, 2006 11:56:38 am PST #1200 of 10001
"When I look at people that I would like to feel have been a mentor or an inspiring kind of archetype of what I'd love to see my career eventually be mentioned as a footnote for in the same paragraph, it would be, like, Bowie." ~Trent Reznor

She's in the middle of filming on a shoestring budget (what's the etymology of that??)

The inferior-to-Polter-Cow answer, the only I could tease from the Web:

"The expression may have come from faro (a gambling game), but it isn't recorded until 1904, although 'shoestring gambler,' for a 'petty, tinhorn gambler,' is recorded 10 years or so earlier. 'On a shoestring' suggests that one's resources are limited to the laces of one's shoe." From "Encyclopedia of Word and Phrase Origins" by Robert Hendrickson (Facts on File, New York, 1997).


Atropa - Mar 28, 2006 1:56:02 pm PST #1201 of 10001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Snakes on a Plane (Paperback): [link]

I am SO tempted to buy this, mostly because it's written by Christa Faust.


Lee - Mar 28, 2006 9:38:20 pm PST #1202 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Why isn't White Nights on DVD yet? I would love to be able to fast forward through the plot to see Gregory Hines and Mikhail Baryshnikov dance.