Elvis was back on NPR this morning! I'd missed him.
I've tried to march in the Slayer Pride Parade ...
Joyce ,'Same Time, Same Place'
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flea - Mar 18, 2006 12:38:07 pm PST #1048 of 10001
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§ ita § - Mar 18, 2006 1:57:31 pm PST #1049 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
2046 is not sci-fi. I was expecting it to be, but it's not.
DavidS - Mar 18, 2006 4:17:19 pm PST #1050 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
2046 is not sci-fi. I was expecting it to be, but it's not.
It's more of a tone poem tribute to Ziyi's updo.
IAmNotReallyASpring - Mar 18, 2006 5:17:22 pm PST #1051 of 10001
I think Freddy Quimby should walk out of here a free hotel
2046 is not sci-fi.
I disagree. While I wouldn't include it as part of my class 'This Is Sci-fi', I'd be much less likely to include it as part of my class 'This Isn't Sci-fi'. It has enough science fiction in it for one to safely group it with sci-fi, even if it isn't primarily sci-fi. Sci-fi, sci-fi.
ETA Rereading, those last two sci-fis make me look like a raving jackass, when they were meant to point up my overuse of the term.
§ ita § - Mar 18, 2006 5:22:06 pm PST #1052 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
For me, because he's just talking about one concept, and it occupies little futuristic story space (it's a simple metaphor), it doesn't make the skiffy cut for me.
Maysa - Mar 18, 2006 5:58:36 pm PST #1053 of 10001
I don't know, I think since 2046 is such a significant year, that the movie (along with a lot of other objectives) is trying to say something about our future (what, exactly, I'm not really sure). That's my definition of sci-fi (a story about a possible future/parallel society that comments on our own.)
Strega - Mar 18, 2006 6:21:33 pm PST #1054 of 10001
Saw V. Liked. May see it again next weekend, since a friend who wanted to see it couldn't make it.
One person I saw it with thought it was lovely and well done and was quite discomfited by it. She understood that the things she found disturbing were supposed to be disturbing, but even so.
I found most of the changes fairly elegant -- I was sad about losing some of the subplots, but there was really no way to include them all. Overall I was impressed with how faithful it was, really. A lot of things that I'd assumed would be dropped were in there.
I have to ruminate on it, since it's just a blur of images at the moment. But I'm fairly amazed by my newfound feelings of respect for the Wachowskis.
Hayden - Mar 18, 2006 7:23:04 pm PST #1055 of 10001
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."
I generally also like Zacherek's reviews, even when I think she's smoking monkey crack. I know she and Charles Taylor (back when he drew a paycheck from Salon) were very polarizing to some readers, but I appreciate their willingness to stake so much on rather idiosyncratic aesthetics, much like I appreciate Pauline Kael's willingness to do so, even when Kael was into the 1960s & 70s version of monkey crack (which was simian acid and primate blow, maybe?).
Eddie - Mar 18, 2006 8:02:17 pm PST #1056 of 10001
Your tag here.
Saw V. Liked.
Likewise.
§ ita § - Mar 19, 2006 12:09:32 am PST #1057 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
2046 was a room number before it was a year. I felt that they were talking about love, loss, regret and the things you can't get back.