I could squeeze you until you popped like warm champagne, and you'd beg me to hurt you just a little bit more.

Fuffy ,'Storyteller'


Spike's Bitches 28: For the Safety of Puppies...and Christmas!  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Strix - Jan 02, 2006 1:56:57 pm PST #2825 of 10001
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

Hey, all. I remember the button-side thing too, although I haven't heard it in a long time.

Snargh. Slept till 4:30 today. Crazy. But I had little sleep all weekend, plus a lot of partying, dancing, drinking, and other forms of fun that made me tired. But happy.

Last night i dreamt I threw a party and some of my student came, and I was wearing a very revealing black dress and I was embarassed. Also, one of my students lost the gold from her tooth, and we had to replace it with pink plastic.

I don't like men's underwear, but I prefer men's undershirts...but mostly because they are comfy and make my boobs look juicy.

So not a boy.


§ ita § - Jan 02, 2006 1:57:50 pm PST #2826 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Most of my shirts are chick shirts these days, because the idea of them fitting me is novel and wonderful, but my men shirts from as little as five years ago do button the other way around.

I don't have many clothes under which it's possible to wear boxers without it becoming a wrinkle issue. Boy short panties are very cute, I think, but it's a guaranteed wedgie-in-waiting for me, so I've given up on them too.

Undershirts, OTOH, I'm all over them. They're cool.


DCJensen - Jan 02, 2006 2:13:14 pm PST #2827 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.

The reason that was given to me at one time was that women of means in the old days had someone dressing them, and it was supposedly easier to button for the servant.

Hmmm...


§ ita § - Jan 02, 2006 2:14:47 pm PST #2828 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I thought guys had someone dress them too? At least that's what I seem to recall from Edwardian House.


Strix - Jan 02, 2006 2:22:03 pm PST #2829 of 10001
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

Well, I think men could dress themselves easier; aristos may have had valets for men as a matter of course, but even middle-class ladies had to have had someone to help them into their corsets. Whereas middle-class dudes could dress themselves; they just had to learn how to manage the collars and ties themselves.

Course, I'm extrapolating so this could all be so much BS.


Trudy Booth - Jan 02, 2006 2:22:39 pm PST #2830 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I was told the "women buttoned by someone else" thing too because women couldn't lift their arms high enough in old-fashioned sleeves.


§ ita § - Jan 02, 2006 2:24:29 pm PST #2831 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I've not found that buttoning my own women's shirts is that difficult, which makes me wonder why someone else buttoning men's shirt had enough hassle that they switched it for the ladies.


Strix - Jan 02, 2006 2:26:08 pm PST #2832 of 10001
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

I agree. I'm not very dextrous, but I don't think it'd ruin my day or anything.

People. People are weird.


Connie Neil - Jan 02, 2006 2:28:21 pm PST #2833 of 10001
brillig

I always heard that the button thing was so a gentleman could unbutton his coat/whatever for ease of movement while drawing his sword.

OK, so there's apparently been a high incidence of sword references in my life.


Sparky1 - Jan 02, 2006 2:28:47 pm PST #2834 of 10001
Librarian Warlord

makes me wonder why someone else buttoning men's shirt had enough hassle that they switched it for the ladies.

I think the argument would be that it wasn't the buttons in the front, but the dresses/shirts for women often buttoned down the back.

Of course, there's at least one person on the Internet who says the "maid" theory is hooey. And only experts post on the Internet.