Formal religious stuff? Like meeting announcements and wedding invitations and stuff?

Depends on the Quaker and the group.

Like Wedding Invitations probably just have the pagan name unless it's two Ultra Quaker familys marrying into each other.

Meeting announcements vary with groups. Some go pagan, other's don't. Usually it's the Fighting Quaker's who go all pagan. But, er, If I call them that I have to partially awknowledgethem as Quaker's in some form which could get me a stern lecture from one of the older folks. But.... What the hell! I'm a Thread Queen! Tpday, all FIghting Quakers are an actual subdivision of Quakers.

I wish I could make a bunch of "these people" (or you know, what they really are, that is "you people") statements, and pretend it wasn't bigoted.

I acknowledge that this is always a danger, but my post was pretty specific in identifying “these people” as the Neocons recently raising a fuss about the “attack on Christmas.” Given their arguments, it seemed a reasonable inference that they are ignorant of American history, of the history of Christmas/Jule/Solstice celebrations, and of the basic teachings of Jesus Christ. But it is true that I was bigoted in my statements because, as TypoBoy points out, there really is no way to tell whether these people really are ignorant or whether they are just grotesque, mendacious, hypocrites trying to manipulate other people. I jumped to the conclusion that they were ignorant, and that was unfair of me.

I wish I could make a bunch of "these people" (or you know, what they really are, that is "you people") statements, and pretend it wasn't bigoted.

wish I could make a bunch of "these people" (or you know, what they really are, that is "you people") statements, and pretend it wasn't bigoted.

When we are talking about the "War on Christmas" and a lot of the other wedge issues, we are talking about Bill O' Reilly , Rush Limbaugh and hate radio and tracing it back to anti-semites such as Henry Ford. When wedge issues come out of nowhere like this it is not a spontaenous eruption; it is deliberately being stirred up. I don't think noticing that is bigotry. I'm sure that once it is stirred up a lot of people come to geniunely believe it. But it does not arise spontaneously.

Hey, the Phoenix airport gives you free internet (no AIM though-- weird), and I have half an hour or so before boarding.

How are people?

How are people?

Fighting off a cold. Though I think the cold has won. Stuffed-up head, woozy feeling, alternating waves of heat and chills, hurty ears. Am taking Airborne and OTC drugs. We'll see how I feel in the morning.

Feh on the cold, Teppy. I hope you beat it.

How are people?

I'm good. We just got back from seeing The Chronicles of Narnia. I loved it. It held much of the magic I remember the books creating for me as a child.

Yay!

I'm fighting to keep a cold from becoming bronchitis. And overjoyed at the fact that I have yet another day off. In a row. Of course, I have to pay for it by working on Saturday, but I will frolic in my joy now.

I am also still chortling about hearing Tom Baker using crude language.

And there was something else I wanted to mention but can no longer recall.