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Natter 41: Why Do I Click on ita's Links?!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Kat - Jan 05, 2006 7:55:57 am PST #7771 of 10002
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

I can remember the formal lessons I had when I was 5 and 6 though I swam a lot before then. My mom used to take me and we'd do the porpoise where I would cling on her neck and she would swim in and out of the water.

It's one of my favorite mom memories.


Topic!Cindy - Jan 05, 2006 7:56:09 am PST #7772 of 10002
What is even happening?

It's harder to swim in the ocean, but you're more buoyant in salt water. My kids can't swim, because all their water time is spent in the ocean. Ben had an aversion to getting his face wet, and the few times we tried to teach him when he was the right age, he strenuously objected. We got lazy with the other two. We're planning on swim lessons for them, before this summer, because we're big failures in this area.


§ ita § - Jan 05, 2006 7:56:20 am PST #7773 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

There are actually waves, currents, rip tides, undertows

My local ocean was the Caribbean. Not hard at all. Really, it was like the pool with added buoyancy and better scenery.


Lee - Jan 05, 2006 7:57:17 am PST #7774 of 10002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

No fear of any kind of water here. In fact, I'm much more comfortable near, on or in water than I am not.

Tickybox is too cute for for words, and I need to plan another weekend up in Seattle soon.


Jesse - Jan 05, 2006 7:57:20 am PST #7775 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I didn't really learn to properly swim until I had to take it in high school -- I could swim fine, doing a jacked up combination of the crawl and doggy paddling, but had never learned real strokes and stuff. I guess my backstroke was OK just naturally.


Kathy A - Jan 05, 2006 7:57:26 am PST #7776 of 10002
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Growing up in midwestern suburbia, a big difference between then and now is that the newly-built subdivisions didn't have a central clubhouse with activities and a pool (outdoor or indoor) like today. Heck, we didn't even get a park with swingsets and a slide until the last street was being developed a few years after we moved there. There wasn't any local YMCAs until I was in high school, so our parents had to sign up to use a local motel's indoor pool, which probably wasn't cheap. They did offer swimming lessons there, so my sibs and I were able to learn how to do more than dogpaddle, unlike my mom.

As for access to lakes, outside of the Chain of Lakes area in the far NW suburbs and Lake Michigan, there are really no big pools of water that aren't chemically-laced retention ponds. Rivers, yes, but again there's the whole pollution-due-to-insecticides-and-factories issue, as well as the current.

Have celeb chefs really made much of a difference to the average American?

I think that it's more the influential restaurants, and not the chefs themselves, that take the credit for things such as gourmet pizza (Spago's) and the spread of organic foods and more innovative flavors (most of the 1980s hip places in LA and NY).


Sophia Brooks - Jan 05, 2006 7:57:46 am PST #7777 of 10002
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I learned to swim in a lake, but I stopped taking swimming lessons because I was too scared of heights to jump from the big tower, which you had to do to pass beyond advanced beginner. I assume I can still dog paddle and float like the best of them, but truth be told, I haven't been swimming since 1994. I don't have a fear of water so much as a fear of bathing suits, however.


Kalshane - Jan 05, 2006 7:58:51 am PST #7778 of 10002
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

I can back stroke fairly competently, but I cannot do the face down strokes. I cannot get coordinated enough to breathe on the right stroke.

I have problems with it that too, and generally tend to do something between a normal front stroke (whatever it's called) and dog paddling where my head stays out of the water. I can do it the "right" way, but it requires a lot more concentration on breathing at the correct time and I hate not seeing where I'm going, so I usually don't bother.


beth b - Jan 05, 2006 7:59:41 am PST #7779 of 10002
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

All the ocean's near where my mom grew up had a lot of waves and a strong undertow. So when you a re learning to swim - waves are knocking you over- stroong salt water is getting in you face, etc. I grew up learning to swim in a calm lake. I had a better oppertunity to learn to perfect my strokes. That same thing that happens to runners - when they get to the place where the rhythm is right and they can go on forever - happens when I swim. I don't think my mom ever had the chance to feel that. so she learned the strokes. but never got the speed, endurance, or fluidity.


Aims - Jan 05, 2006 7:59:55 am PST #7780 of 10002
Shit's all sorts of different now.

I learned, or rather my mother attempted to teach me, to swim in a pool at the swim club. Later, I learned from my grandfather in Lake Michigan and Lake Huron. I'm an ok swimmer. I can handle myself in deep water, but I have tendency to go out too far in lakes.