Zoe: What's that, sir? Mal: Freedom, is what. Zoe: No, I meant what's that? Mal: Oh. Yeah. Just step around it. I think something must've been living in here.

'Out Of Gas'


Natter 41: Why Do I Click on ita's Links?!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jesse - Jan 04, 2006 1:13:14 pm PST #7499 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

She was all apologetic that she hadn't taught me that, and I told her that she taught me how to read and look something up when I didn't know it, so it all worked out.

That's awesome.


brenda m - Jan 04, 2006 1:27:22 pm PST #7500 of 10002
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I'm twenty-nine and the first mother-child spat of my recent visit home (hey, there were only two total) was over floor-mopping, which I did not do adequately.

My dad has to stop us and re-instruct us on how to sweep properly every time he stuck a broom in our hands.


§ ita § - Jan 04, 2006 1:27:33 pm PST #7501 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

My mother never tried to teach me that stuff. But the woman we had to do the cooking and the cleaning also had childminding as her responsibility, so you pick stuff up. It's not like we had TV to watch, or anything.


amych - Jan 04, 2006 1:33:37 pm PST #7502 of 10002
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

I spent my formative years with a single dad who's an academic. I didn't ever learn housekeeping, but I had shelving down.


§ ita § - Jan 04, 2006 1:37:14 pm PST #7503 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think my parents expected me to osmotically acquire knowledge of how to do stuff--or, what actually happened, that we'd turn around and find we had the same standards they had, and would have to take more mundane, hands-on, steps to maintaining them. I mean, my mother kept as tidy a house when she had staff as when she didn't. It was a thing.

She still mops my kitchen every now and again. And then we argue.

I love this celeb-rampage story:

At 2am bar staff refused to serve any more alcohol. Undaunted, Kiefer persuaded management to let them loose in the lobby.

He ordered yet more booze on room service, then staggered around the entrance hall, entertaining pals with a bizarre, flailing breakdancing routine.

It was then that a huge Christmas tree caught his eye.

"I hate that f***ing Christmas tree," he declared. "The tree HAS to come down."

Kiefer warned staff: "I'm smashing it - can I pay for it?"

A staff member replied: "I'm absolutely sure you can, sir."

The Lost Boys star - famously ditched by Julia Roberts five days before their wedding in 1991 - then hurled himself into the Norwegian Spruce, sending baubles and lights crashing to the ground. Pulling pine needles out of his hair and t-shirt, he said to a hotel employee: "Ooh sorry about that...you're so cool. This f***ing hotel rocks."


Betsy HP - Jan 04, 2006 1:38:44 pm PST #7504 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

A staff member replied: "I'm absolutely sure you can, sir."

I am now imagining Stephen Fry as Jeeves saying this.


Daisy Jane - Jan 04, 2006 1:41:52 pm PST #7505 of 10002
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

I have the same standards my mother does, but no idea how to keep them. It's odd. I like the place to at least look neat at all times, maybe not spotless, but tidy. Unfortunately my switch only goes from overwhelmed to scrubbingthewholeplacerightnow. So I needed to be taught that say picking up and doing the dishes daily, laundry on weekends, and actual scrubbing twice a month is fine.


§ ita § - Jan 04, 2006 1:42:05 pm PST #7506 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

A friend of mine bumped into a hammered Kiefer on the way to the men's, and asked him to say hello to my friend's fiancée, since she was a huge fan. Kiefer ended up sitting with them for twenty minutes.

So even though he seems to be a big old lush, he gets cool points from me.


Betsy HP - Jan 04, 2006 1:42:37 pm PST #7507 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

Sharon circling the drain?

[link]

I always remember Victor's mantra, "No Hope, no Pope, and home by 10." I wonder what the mantra is now?


§ ita § - Jan 04, 2006 1:50:09 pm PST #7508 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

We're allowed to go home early for the game, but no one dares. Also, not many of us care about the game.

It feels like a trap.