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Natter 41: Why Do I Click on ita's Links?!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


§ ita § - Jan 04, 2006 9:08:39 am PST #7277 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Isn't it a little weird when Tivo knows what you like to watch, even though you know how it learns?

To me, no. Because I enjoy reading up on the algorithm. I have no idea what it's like to not be like that, so I'm curious.

I took an AI course in college. Didn't do very well. It was about game playing applications, and that irritated me. Chess playing programs are not intelligent. They are problem solving in a really small domain with clear and unbreakable rules. Intelligence isn't knowing every possible outcome (and the path there) and moving towards the one you like best. It's almost the opposite of that.

Then I get confused about intelligence v. sentience and then I'm all dizzy.

What AI do we have around us anyway? What learns and plans? Apart from the Roomba (or does that not plan?).

I think the reason that AI makes good horror movies is NSM because I'm scared of someone creating something better than me, but I'd be scared of someone playing god with so little experience on their resume -- it's not about getting it right -- the horror is when they get it wrong.

Then again, maybe we're a god's horror story right now.


shrift - Jan 04, 2006 9:08:43 am PST #7278 of 10002
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Oops. The boss here just asked if I have enough to do. I said I really would if people would get back to me.

Could be worse. Currently I'm watching the work pile up in my inbox with mounting horror.


tommyrot - Jan 04, 2006 9:10:06 am PST #7279 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Apart from the Roomba (or does that not plan?).

It schemes.


Jesse - Jan 04, 2006 9:10:56 am PST #7280 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Could be worse. Currently I'm watching the work pile up in my inbox with mounting horror.

Yeah, that's worse. Maybe I'll take a smoke break. I did just make two follow-up phone calls and send an email!

I like Tivo, but I'm still afraid of Hal.


Frankenbuddha - Jan 04, 2006 9:11:42 am PST #7281 of 10002
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

It schemes.

And occasionally opens fire (usually on the pets), and, if taught correctly, plays the 1812 Overture.


§ ita § - Jan 04, 2006 9:12:11 am PST #7282 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The chick in the cube next to me is totally gossiping on the phone in her native language.

Totally not fair.

We're allowed to leave early to catch the start of the Rose Bowl game. How weird.


flea - Jan 04, 2006 9:12:30 am PST #7283 of 10002
information libertarian

All the things that I can think of that are in current use as "AI" are really just massive data collection and analysis - Tivo catching vampire shows, Amazon's recommendations, Walmart's and others' data collection and targeted marketing. On the other hand, isn't a big factor in intelligence data collection and analysis?

I am speaking as a non-AI studier and also as a non-reader of Sci-Fi. But as someone who found Furby creepy. Also Robodogs.


shrift - Jan 04, 2006 9:14:36 am PST #7284 of 10002
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Yeah, that's worse. Maybe I'll take a smoke break.

Yep! I'm going to take a smoke break, too, but it's to stave off homicidal impulses in addition to the boredom.


Jessica - Jan 04, 2006 9:15:06 am PST #7285 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

What AI do we have around us anyway? What learns and plans? Apart from the Roomba (or does that not plan?).

Does Tivo count? Store website recommendations?

And occasionally opens fire (usually on the pets), and, if taught correctly, plays the 1812 Overture.

I would so totally name my Roomba 1812 if I had one.

Roomba owners -- how does it do with rugs? I remember reading ages ago that fringe and edges were problematic, but that was at least a few versions ago.


Gudanov - Jan 04, 2006 9:15:42 am PST #7286 of 10002
Coding and Sleeping

There are the self-driving vehicles in that DOD contest, they are much, much improved this year.

There's the XC-45 Unmanned Drone that Beoing is developing. Unlike a Predator drone it is not designed to be remote controlled, just to have a human confirm things like dropping bombs.