I know I'm a bad poet, but I'm a good man. All I ask is that... is that you try to see me—

William ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Lost 2: Tied to a Tree in a Jungle of Mystery  

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Jon B. - Mar 23, 2010 4:40:00 pm PDT #5404 of 5968
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Looks like Richard:Titus :: Ben:Flocke


Steph L. - Mar 23, 2010 4:40:05 pm PDT #5405 of 5968
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

It's just an awful lot of time spent on: Richard loves his wife, bad stuff bad stuff, sold into slavery, wrecks on The Island, stuck in chains, oh crap, and here's the black smoke.

I mean, it's been 40 minutes. That could have been compressed into 10.


Juliebird - Mar 23, 2010 4:45:43 pm PDT #5406 of 5968
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

I see it as: this is all we're going to get of Richard's backstory amongst a cast of characters that have had how many years of naval-gazing, flashbacks, flashforwards, flashsideways, and explicit island time. So instead of a whole season of Richard staring morosely at a fancy crucifix necklace before we find out why... basically I see this as condensed.


Frankenbuddha - Mar 23, 2010 4:49:18 pm PDT #5407 of 5968
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Plus when things get too slow, I can just picture Batmanuel in these scenes and it's freakin' hysterical.

For the record, I'm enjoying it. I was a little surprised to find out 40 minutes had gone by.


quester - Mar 23, 2010 5:05:15 pm PDT #5408 of 5968
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

Hmmmmmmmmm...


le nubian - Mar 23, 2010 6:45:43 pm PDT #5409 of 5968
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Someone is going to have to explain Jacob's logic to me.

So he brings people to the island so the Man in Black can know that all human beings aren't evil. But the MIB kills about a good number of the people who arrive on the island anyway, so how is it the human beings have choice?

What does Jacob have to prove to the MIB anyway?

Isn't it more honest to say that Jacob is bringing people to the island so that there will always be a replacement for Jacob and that Jacob is the MIB's jailer?


Juliebird - Mar 23, 2010 6:49:44 pm PDT #5410 of 5968
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Jacob makes me think of God fucking with and ruining Job's life all because of a bet he had with the devil.


Steph L. - Mar 23, 2010 7:26:15 pm PDT #5411 of 5968
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

It was interesting that the MiB told Richard the exact same thing about killing "the devil" (Jacob) -- use this dagger, don't let him say anything, if he speaks to you it's already too late -- that Dogan told Sayid about killing MiB-in-Locke.

I still don't think that the MiB is necessarily "bad," and I definitely don't think that Jacob is "good."


Polter-Cow - Mar 24, 2010 2:13:49 am PDT #5412 of 5968
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

It was interesting that the MiB told Richard the exact same thing about killing "the devil" (Jacob) -- use this dagger, don't let him say anything, if he speaks to you it's already too late -- that Dogan told Sayid about killing MiB-in-Locke.

Yep, I noticed that.

And I'm with you on the "Er, this is kinda boring, and we sure are spending a lot of time on it..." feeling. But for the story they intended to tell in this episode, it worked. I just thought we would get more of an expanded timeline in a Richard episode.


Theodosia - Mar 24, 2010 2:59:07 am PDT #5413 of 5968
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I'm disappointed that Richard isn't older, like back to the 1670s. The Black Rock looks like it should be an older ship.

Also, WHY was Richard bought into slavery by Hanso? Why was it important for him to know English?