You like ships. You don't seem to be looking at the destinations. What you care about is the ships, and mine's the nicest.

Kaylee ,'Serenity'


Lost 2: Tied to a Tree in a Jungle of Mystery  

[NAFDA] This is where we talk about the show! Anything that's aired in the US (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though -- if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


DCJensen - Mar 10, 2010 4:06:54 am PST #5342 of 5968
All is well that ends in pizza.

Maybe Jin and Sun are the Wonder Twins of the island? Without the whole incest vibe of course.

JinSun powers activate!

Maybe I need breakfast before I let my brain out to play.


sumi - Mar 10, 2010 4:09:56 am PST #5343 of 5968
Art Crawl!!!

Yes, I need to know where Sawyer is - well, at least they showed him in th e promo for next week. (I didn't imagine that, did I?)


-t - Mar 10, 2010 6:11:55 am PST #5344 of 5968
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Not knowing the whereabouts of both Jin and Sawyer is preying on my mind something fierce. They faked me out showing Sun reuniting with Hurley et al. in last week's previews.


Topic!Cindy - Mar 10, 2010 6:29:02 am PST #5345 of 5968
What is even happening?

The promo went by so quickly, and it was so late by the time I got to watch, and I had to write the recaplet, so I'm not sure sumi. Actually, I am sure they showed Sawyer (or at least we heard him) but whatever he said seemed to me to be from a past episode. The promo monkeys are getting really stingey.

I've always thought that if any of the Losties were the Adam and Eve skeletons, it was probably Rose and Bernard. But now, I'm wondering if it's not Jin and Sun.

And if they're not Adam and Eve who lost paradise, maybe they're the new Adam and Eve, who will be restored to it. And/or perhaps they're the final candidates to replace Smokey and Jacob. Maybe nobody knows which "Kwon" is on the list represents -- because both of them are rolled up into one.

Remember seasons ago, when Smokey was explained away as the island's security system? And remember seasons ago, when Sun was very into planting a garden? Biblically speaking, man was created with a job in mind, to tend the garden. Man fell from grace and was booted from the garden. An angel with a flaming sword was posted outside to keep man from re-entering. I can't take that thought any further yet, but that's where my head is, right now.

It's also flashing back to all those episodes where the Losties wandered back and forth on the island. Then I start thinking about the children of Jacob (whom God renamed "Israel") following Moses out of Egypt and wandering in the wilderness for 40 years before they were allowed to reach the promised land.

Then my nose starts bleeding.

By the by, my recaplet is up at TWoP. It doesn't get into that heady stuff above. Here's a [link] .


Hayden - Mar 10, 2010 11:02:08 am PST #5346 of 5968
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

One theory I've read this morning: Jacob and Smokey represent not-too-different ideas about religion, with Jacob being the more direct manipulator of events and Smokey the more natural law/deistic version. In this theory, the Losties are to a person happier and more self-actualized in the pocket universe because they have rejected the blind faith and superstition of the Island.


Jon B. - Mar 10, 2010 11:17:05 am PST #5347 of 5968
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Murdering shitloads of people seems pretty directly manipulative to me.


le nubian - Mar 10, 2010 11:32:47 am PST #5348 of 5968
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Jon,

who murdered all the Dharma Initiative people (the people Richard and Ben gassed)? Did they do that in service to Jacob?


Jon B. - Mar 10, 2010 11:51:49 am PST #5349 of 5968
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Richard told Ben to do it, so it was probably Jacob's fault. Jacob is clearly manipulative. My point was that so is Esau.


Topic!Cindy - Mar 10, 2010 1:04:00 pm PST #5350 of 5968
What is even happening?

Do we know that Jacob told Ben to do it, or is that just the assumption? Sometimes, I think of Ben and some of the other Others as religious extremists.


Hayden - Mar 10, 2010 1:13:44 pm PST #5351 of 5968
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

I think we're supposed to think that.

Jon, I don't think I described this theory that well. Smokey, while a murderer of a bunch of people (which, for all we know, is a recent thing), hasn't tried in the past to meddle in the affairs of people for his own means, choosing instead to kill some if he crosses them and ignore them otherwise. So he's generally been as indifferent to humanity as nature itself.