Well, lady, I must say-- You're my kinda stupid.

Mal ,'Heart Of Gold'


Lost 2: Tied to a Tree in a Jungle of Mystery  

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-t - Apr 02, 2009 6:50:16 am PDT #4817 of 5968
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I liked the Hurley - Ghost Whisperer dude conversation. I thought it was more about the writers admitting that they didn't have it all worked out than explaining anything to the audience, since they never reached a real conclusion. Hanging a lampshade, if you will.

man, what a fucking cheat: "if I take him, he'll forget any of this happened and he'll lose his innocence."

Total weak sauce. But at least now we know that Charles is still in charge of the Others in '77. Would Penny have been born by now?

And I echo Juliebird, where the hell is Faraday?


sumi - Apr 02, 2009 7:59:57 am PDT #4818 of 5968
Art Crawl!!!

I liked that conversation too - I thought that Hurley was standing in for the audience there.


Polter-Cow - Apr 02, 2009 8:02:02 am PDT #4819 of 5968
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Although he was asking some really stupid questions for most of it. Why would you remember something you haven't done yet? COME ON NOW.


Wolfram - Apr 02, 2009 8:43:34 am PDT #4820 of 5968
Visilurking

It was a total lampshade, I just think it was clumsily done. They could have winked at it in a two sentence exchange instead of a confusing 3 minutes scene.

I also get antsier than normal when I feel this show is wasting the precious 42ish minutes it has to give us SHOW. Granted, I'd be even antsier if this was the final season and the final few episodes (I'm looking at you BSG), but still.


-t - Apr 02, 2009 9:16:37 am PDT #4821 of 5968
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Yeah, but it was giving us more Hurley in an ocean of Kate, and that's always a win.


erin_obscure - Apr 02, 2009 10:58:25 pm PDT #4822 of 5968
Occasionally I’m callous and strange

if ethan's been born already, then penny shoud be either alive or very shortly on the way.....


le nubian - Apr 03, 2009 3:12:08 am PDT #4823 of 5968
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

who is penny's mother?


sumi - Apr 03, 2009 4:15:45 am PDT #4824 of 5968
Art Crawl!!!

We think it's the young British girl with the rifle when they Losties were on the Island post WWII. (Ellie.)


sumi - Apr 03, 2009 4:16:35 am PDT #4825 of 5968
Art Crawl!!!

I think we think that. . . but we also think that was Faraday's mother.

Okay, we think that Faraday and Penny are siblings. Possibly unbeknownst to each other.


Topic!Cindy - Apr 03, 2009 5:41:14 am PDT #4826 of 5968
What is even happening?

Who else felt the Hurley/talks-to-bones-guy conversation was the writer's attempt to dumb down the time-twisting issues for viewers? I thought they made things worse by trying to explain it rather than just assume we'd get it. I mean really, saying little Ben's past is Hurley's present? How does that make it less complicated? Actually, I think Hurley understood the whole situation better before TTBG tried to explain it. He was spot-on with the Back to the Future bit.

I took most of that more as a playful jab at fan arguments, and maybe at arguments that happen in the war room (see Angel: Caveman vs. Astronaut), because at the end of it, didn't Miles sort of end up copping to the fact that what he was saying couldn't be completely right, either?

Until they clearly show me otherwise, I am taking "Whatever Happened, Happened" to mean that pivotal events happen, no matter what. Ben gets shot. Somehow. And scar tissues from that shooting would account for his later tumor on his spine. What I'm not accepting is that the circumstances and minor players were always the same, like that the shooter has always been Sayid. Or that the doctor who didn't operate on child-Ben was always Jack (because Juliet did mention that the other doctor was elsewhere at the time). Likewise, I know Ben defects to the others. Somehow. I'm not yet sold on Sawyer and Kate having always been the ones who carried him to them.