He was VERY good in Three Kings.

"Hey buddy - I haven't even told you the horrible part yet."

NO HURTING PENNY.

NOT PENNY'S THROAT.

NOT PENNY'S THROAT.

Am I missing something? This is just panicked speculation, right? RIGHT?!

Hasn't he been in that pool before? I'm pretty sure that's the pool where all the corpses and wreckage ended up.

Having been there on my Lost pilgrimage in Oahu, I can confirm that is the same waterfall.

Thanks, megan. I wish I'd checked back in here before I wrote the recap. I would have made note of it.

The full recap has been published.

I'm liking all the speculation that Ben got beaten by Sayid, which is how Sayid got arrested. I said something similar in the recap. In actuality, I think he probably went after Penny, but I'm lalalaing that away, until I'm shown otherwise.

Hey, Sunil, you were saying we knew from the newspaper clipping that Locke killed himself. I found the clipping (I don't have the link, but there's a copy at Lostpedia.wikia.com) and I can't find any mention of the suicide. Was there something else -- a line or something -- that made you think this was already a fact known to Jack?

Was there something else -- a line or something -- that made you think this was already a fact known to Jack?

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I think it was the line about the beam that led people to believe that the man in the obituary was found hanging from said beam. This could just be an example of fanon becoming canon in my head, which is why I don't read fanfic!

Yeah, I think it's fanon with a physical basis.

I checked that wiki article before I wrote the recap. I'd originally written (well, drafted I guess, it's nothing I submitted for publication) a big rant in the recap discussing the fact that Jack had known it was a suicide for a long time -- so why was he acting surprised now. Then something made me fact-check and that Lostpedia article on the clipping was the best canonical evidence I could find, so I deleted my rant (which is sad, because it was righteously ranty) and changed it to a question in the recap.

Right after I asked you about it, here, I got an e-mail from a reader who had the same impression and explained how she thinks we got that impression. She says:

After doing a little bit of digging, I found this article posted on DarkUFO, [link] which purported to have the full text of the clipping.

Obviously, it was either a fake spoiler, or just a prop made by the art department, since they had the name wrong (John Lantham as opposed to Jeremy Bentham), and information about being survived by a teenaged son (? !!!) But, that's where the original notion that it was suicide came from Anyway, I thought you might like to know that in this once very small instance, LOST has not driven you completely nuts. :D

I think it was a prop, because I during fact-checking (which I didn't bother to keep track of since it led to nothing that supported my righteous rant), I ran across information about the prop clipping.

Oh, Show.

Whoa. Given this turn of mind-fuckery, I wouldn't be surprised if we got an alternate version of Widmore's being nasty to Desmond that makes it him trying to protect Penny.

Still doesn't quite explain the lethal force on the Island, but who knows - mercenaries out of control could be as valid an explanation. I'm all for redefining character motives. And doG nose Ben has done some seriously heinous things that we HAVE been shown.

I wouldn't be surprised if we got an alternate version of Widmore's being nasty to Desmond that makes it him trying to protect Penny.

What do you mean, Frank?

Is everyone else dead from the HSQ?