My test of whether the writers can see this all the way through is if they remember that Desmond and Frank would probably have to go back too. Although that's not quite right either - Locke wasn't one of the escapees in the helicopter. Is it just the crash survivors that need to go back? Would Aaron count as a survivor, even though he was one of the six? Technically, he was on the plane, I guess. Makes me wonder if there are supernatural forces on the island working at cross-purposes, given Kate's dream, though I guess that could just be a dream and not a "real" message from Claire.
Angel: You know, I killed my actual dad. It was one of the first things I did when I became a vampire. Wesley: I hardly see how that's the same situation. Angel: Yeah. I didn't really think that one through.
'Lineage'
Lost 2: Tied to a Tree in a Jungle of Mystery
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Frankenbuddha - May 30, 2008 4:46:13 am PDT #4317 of 5968
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Wolfram - May 30, 2008 6:14:57 am PDT #4318 of 5968
Visilurking
I think we can all agree, though, that Michael is dead like a dead thing.
At this point, I'm not convinced Michael (or Jin) is dead. Why would Hurley tell Walt that he was protecting the people on the island by lying, and he told Walt that included his father? Why wouldn't he just tell Walt that Michael was dead? Isn't it crueler to give him false hope?
I think at that point in the future (which is at least a couple years after Hurley and Sun go to Jin's grave) Hurley knows that Michael and maybe Jin are actually alive. I think either Locke/Bentham visited him that month too, or he heard it from the various island dead he keeps in touch with. And (memfault) chopper guy confirmed it is possible to talk to the dead.
Polter-Cow - May 30, 2008 7:11:52 am PDT #4319 of 5968
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
People are calling season 5 ZOMBIE SEASON.
le nubian - May 30, 2008 8:04:10 am PDT #4320 of 5968
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
that's because the creators keep joking that the final season will be the zombie season...
Polter-Cow - May 30, 2008 8:12:26 am PDT #4321 of 5968
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
Aha! That explains it.
Speaking of the creators, they kept the big Ben Moves the Island scene secret by giving it the codename Frozen Donkey Wheel. Hee.
Steph L. - May 30, 2008 8:15:31 am PDT #4322 of 5968
I look more rad than Lutheranism
Ben Moves the Island
I really wanted to be moved by his grief during that scene -- since he knew he was being exiled from the island -- but the fact that, just prior, he let the boat blow up and evinced not one shred of guilt, made me not give a damn about what he was losing.
Polter-Cow - May 30, 2008 8:22:42 am PDT #4323 of 5968
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
Ben doesn't really seem to feel guilt at all, now that I think about it. Has he ever shown the capacity for guilt?
I'll buy that he was emotional over the loss of his daughter, and I loved his snide remark to Locke about how he's sure HE won't have any trouble with those pesky emotions!
Ailleann - May 30, 2008 8:34:36 am PDT #4324 of 5968
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Hey, has anyone been able to check out Octagon Global Recruiting yet? I saw the "commercial" last night, but couldn't get on the site.
Steph L. - May 30, 2008 8:36:44 am PDT #4325 of 5968
I look more rad than Lutheranism
From McSweeney's: The Opening Act from the Original, Unused Teleplay of Lost's Pilot Episode.
Frankenbuddha - May 30, 2008 8:37:49 am PDT #4326 of 5968
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
I really wanted to be moved by his grief during that scene -- since he knew he was being exiled from the island -- but the fact that, just prior, he let the boat blow up and evinced not one shred of guilt, made me not give a damn about what he was losing.
I'm convinced Ben knew that moving the island would have the same effect that Keamy dying would, and nothing was going to stop him from moving the island. I was sort of hoping that's where they were going to go with it (or have Locke put on the device, and then have the boat blow up when the island got moved).