Xander: Am I right, Giles? Giles: I'm almost certain you're not. Though, to be fair, I haven't been listening.

'Sleeper'


Lost 2: Tied to a Tree in a Jungle of Mystery  

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d - Mar 21, 2008 3:51:58 am PDT #4056 of 5968
It's nice to see some brave pretenders trying to make it interesting.

Okay, I'm pretty sure Widmore and Co. are clearly bad, but Ben and Co. are so morally grey they deserve their own color.

Beige.


Theodosia - Mar 22, 2008 6:20:07 am PDT #4057 of 5968
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Widmore has screwed up his daughter's life enough to deserve the title 'evil', not to mention faking an entire planeload of people....


megan walker - Mar 22, 2008 6:58:35 am PDT #4058 of 5968
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

Do we know that was Widmore though? Do we know that from anyone not involved with Ben? I can't remember.


-t - Mar 22, 2008 7:30:08 am PDT #4059 of 5968
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

The helicopter pilot seemed to imply that it was not Widmore who faked the crash site.


erin_obscure - Mar 22, 2008 10:46:32 am PDT #4060 of 5968
Occasionally I’m callous and strange

There is also the possibility that the helicopter pilot (forgot his name, but is oddly...HOT) has been entirely mislead by Widmore. MHO that Widmore did fake the sunken ship and Thai bodies, but mr pilot doesn't know that because he's just trying to find out the truth....and was recruited for the mission when he called in to denounce the TV coverage as a fake. Widmore would want to get a rabble-rouser like him out of the way. Since we all know flying to and from the island is suicide :)


Dana - Mar 22, 2008 10:50:00 am PDT #4061 of 5968
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Oh! I had a theory earlier.

Okay, so it's all well and good to say "the island won't let you die," but didn't Michael try to kill himself with the gun that whatshisname (Zeke?) gave him? Maybe the gun was rigged.


Steph L. - Mar 22, 2008 11:09:21 am PDT #4062 of 5968
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Michael bought the gun at a pawnshop. Which isn't to say that Zeke didn't go to the pawnshop first and plant the gun.


Dana - Mar 22, 2008 11:13:04 am PDT #4063 of 5968
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Did they both have guns? Or did Zeke take Michael's gun from him? Because that would blow my beautiful theory. Oh, well. It was fun being brilliant for a moment.


le nubian - Mar 22, 2008 12:35:48 pm PDT #4064 of 5968
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I don't think Widmore is a nice man, and he definitely treated Desmond like shit in previous episodes, but I'm going to save "evil" until I really know what his motives are. He isn't yet as bad as Locke's father, but I'm going to wait and see...

Do you think it is possible that a 3rd party planted the plane and bodies. Conveniently Ben and Widmore have blamed each other - what if the Hanso Foundation people did it?


Wolfram - Mar 27, 2008 12:23:34 pm PDT #4065 of 5968
Visilurking

Sometimes, in between my annoyance and frustration, I give the Lost folk the benefit of the doubt. I know they went to the ass-pull school of storytelling, but I figure it must be damn near impossible to handle a survival story with so many characters (with their respective development arcs and inter-relationships), while progressing the overall arc of the show without it getting tedious.

Then I watched Jericho.