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Lost 2: Tied to a Tree in a Jungle of Mystery  

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§ ita § - Nov 17, 2005 9:05:44 am PST #285 of 5968
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Nathan could have been following voices that led him nowhere, or the ghost of his dead father that he went to retrieve in Australia, or whatever.

He also spent a hell of a lot of time in the bathroom on the plane.


DXMachina - Nov 17, 2005 9:06:12 am PST #286 of 5968
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

In fact, haven't we speculated that there are at least two supernatural influences operating at odds with each other?

I'm sure there's a perfectly logical scientific explanation for all of it.

Really...


DXMachina - Nov 17, 2005 9:06:34 am PST #287 of 5968
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

He also spent a hell of a lot of time in the bathroom on the plane.

So did Charlie.


§ ita § - Nov 17, 2005 9:14:06 am PST #288 of 5968
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

DX, are you slashing?


Matt the Bruins fan - Nov 17, 2005 9:30:06 am PST #289 of 5968
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

If so, he's being pretty complimentary to one or the other since their respective bathrooms were about 200 feet apart.


DXMachina - Nov 17, 2005 9:34:26 am PST #290 of 5968
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Matt has the right of it.


Matt the Bruins fan - Nov 17, 2005 9:38:34 am PST #291 of 5968
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I had to leave my parents' place just after the Others kidnapped the children last night, though I have the gist of what happened afterwards. Did they follow through on the in joke by having Goodwin say anything about Nazis or Hitler?


tavella - Nov 17, 2005 9:56:31 pm PST #292 of 5968
There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists.

And it didn't work so well with the Frontenders because 1) there were more of them, and 2) they were already forming their own little community, which would be harder to infiltrate.

My theory is that it's not that the front-enders were so much more formidable (they split up into two groups pretty quick, making each about the same size as the Tailaways) or that they were too far away (Ethan certainly got there soon enough), but that they are inside the perimeter of the security system. Basically, by being dropped from the sky so suddenly, it doesn't read them as intruders, but as residents. And the security system, while not impossible to infiltrate (explaining Ethan) makes it difficult to attack quietly and in force. It's possible, in fact, that the initial rumblings the night and day after the crash were from a woken up system that was being triggered by Others.

This might explain why the security system has made a lot of noise but not actually killed anyone since the first day. And I can fanwank the pilot as a matter of them being above the safe perimeter vertically. I wonder if Joanna went beyond the safe perimeter on the seaward side?

If this theory is correct, the security system is probably primarily meant to protect Swan Station and make sure that that button keeps getting pushed.


d - Nov 18, 2005 1:57:27 am PST #293 of 5968
It's nice to see some brave pretenders trying to make it interesting.

This show kinda bores me, but I've been bored lately so catching up.

Addressing some comments from WAAAAAY back: Why is everyone so surprised to see mostly Americans on the plane? I got the impression that Oceanic is supposed to be a US airline of some kind (don't know why, that's just how I've been interpreting it). In MY experience, Americans like to fly US airlines, French like to fly French airlines, British prefer British airlines, etc. So it makes perfect sense to me that there aren't that many Aussie folks aboard.

I agree that the whole Dharma thing feels like a psych experiment. I wish they'd stop rehashing the first 5 minutes of this season and get on with exploring the hatch. At least I've been able to catch up from recorded eps and fast forward during the boring bits.


TomW - Nov 18, 2005 3:32:24 am PST #294 of 5968
"The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be."

If the Others take the able (first), and the good (second), then it does explain why they've left the front-enders relatively alone.

I imagine Ethan's report to them.

Other: "Who are the able? The ones that we must kill?"
Ethan: "I dunno, they're all kind of useless."

Other: "Then who are the good? Who must we save?"
Ethan: "They all kind of suck."
Other: "You staying? It's taco night."
Ethan: "Nah, I want to see how they get on with that golf course."