Speaking only from my own experience as someone who has twice done interstate moves with no map, I can tell you there's a huge difference between knowing what direction you're going in, and having an actual plan.

Over the word of one of the writers that said there was in fact no plan?

Is there some reason we should be believing Mr. Fury more than the writers who didn't leave the show? Frankly, the circumstances under which those comments were made robbed them of any validity I might have otherwise been inclined to give them. But at this point, aren't we just arguing over which writer we like more, and hence should give more trust?

I'm not sure I like any of the Lost writers. However, the cranky bastard has a crusty truth-telling rep going for him, as well as the other writers contradicting themselves in public.

I seem to recall (but can't substantiate) that the objection to what Fury said was "You can't talk about that in public!" as much as or more than "Liar!"

My best friend writes for Canadian TV, and I've heard her talk about pre-pickup show bibles. And they're certainly not throwing around the luchre.

I can't speak about Canadian writers. In my part of the world, show bibles are par for the course too; they're just not extensive. Rudimentary sketches of the premise, the main characters and the their relationships are enough to fill it out.

The reason so little work goes into a show bible here is because from the time of conceiving the idea to the time of getting the commission a writer is usually paid only once, when the production company options the pilot. That's somewhere in the region of 1,500 euros (1,800 dollars). That's not enough pay to be expecting a series worth of ideas from a writer, for that you get the pilot, the bible, meetings when they're wanted and criticisms addressed. The writer spends the rest of his or her time working on a play, or something, to make ends meet.

Lost revives Irish novel interest

Well, something good came out of all of this.

I seem to recall (but can't substantiate) that the objection to what Fury said was "You can't talk about that in public!" as much as or more than "Liar!"

Actually, the objections I read were specifically "Liar!" and not the first thing. Still, despite what I said in my last post about not taking his comments seriously, I'm also not inclined to flat out call Fury a liar, either. Really, I suspect some disagreements over the definition of a "plan."

And just to be clear, when I'm saying I give them the beneifit of the doubt about having a "plan," I suspect their plan isn't much more than "What's going on on the island is blah."

Also, I still do not know to what, specifically, you are referring when you talk about other writers contradicting themselves in public.

That's not enough pay to be expecting a series worth of ideas from a writer, for that you get the pilot, the bible, meetings when they're wanted and criticisms addressed.

Yes, even in a magical happy land full of happiness, that's not much pay for quite a lot of work, and yes, I'd be disinclined to spend too much time on a show bible for that amount of cash.

I still do not know to what, specifically, you are referring when you talk about other writers contradicting themselves in public

The assertion that everything on the island could be explained by mundane means has completely been contradicted.

Symptomatic but not proof of the oh-shiny! school of worldbuiling--the numbers. They thought it was cool, dumped them everywhere, and have no explanation for their significance or power.

It irritates me, and would irritate me less if they'd just SHUT UP. Watching the show gives me enough suspicion about there not being much of a cohesive plan, but every second interview seems to add to that.

The assertion that everything on the island could be explained by mundane means has completely been contradicted.

I'm not sure who said that or where, but that smells like a red herring to me. Watching the show doesn't twig me the way it twigs you, as far as to how little of a plan they may or may not have, but I've never suspected or frankly wanted everything on the island to be explained by mundane means.

I kinda figured OMGWTFPOLARBEAR!, and the little hints that Walt did it, put the kibosh on that theory.

I've never suspected or frankly wanted everything on the island to be explained by mundane means.

Me neither. Which is why the writing team saying so bothered me.