Take jobs as they come -- and we'll never be under the heel of nobody ever again. No matter how long the arm of the Alliance might get, we'll just get ourselves a little further.

Mal ,'Out Of Gas'


Lost 2: Tied to a Tree in a Jungle of Mystery  

[NAFDA] This is where we talk about the show! Anything that's aired in the US (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though -- if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


The Partyman - Feb 20, 2006 8:33:23 am PST #1215 of 5968
[insert something funny here]

Brokeback Island, for you Jack/Sawyer lovers.

Oh my, that's pretty clever.

Or at least, better than any "fan video" I could make!


Fay - Feb 21, 2006 3:51:34 am PST #1216 of 5968
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

averting eyes with some difficulty

So my flatmate and I have now watched Season 2 up to episode 9, with the whole Computer-conversation thingy. And I've read a chunk of the Old Thread and the first 500+ posts of this thread and then skipped ahead to say (1) I'm still loving the show, (2) I want fanfic and (3) does Naveen Andrews genuinely look like an Arab to Americans?

Because it's a bit of a nobrainer to flatmate and me - not just the fact that he's playing an Iraqi (which I can try to retcon), but the fact that people who don't know him describe him as 'An Arab guy'.


Laura - Feb 21, 2006 4:07:57 am PST #1217 of 5968
Our wings are not tired.

Can't steer you to the fanfic although I am certain there is plenty.

I accept that Sayid is Iraqi. My guess is that Naveen is of Indian descent, but I'm too lazy to google. I'm pretty sure I read somewhere he was British. Other than the unfortunate pairing with Shannon I like his character so I just accept the Iraqi thing. There are very few Arabs in my community so it doesn't jump out at me.

Ignorance is bliss?


§ ita § - Feb 21, 2006 4:11:54 am PST #1218 of 5968
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I figure the minute I'd get stroppy about it, someone would link to a citation of the Indian-looking subpopulation of the Arab world, and that would be that.

I've done the parallel about Jamaica myself. I still think it makes sloppy casting either way.


le nubian - Feb 21, 2006 4:37:19 am PST #1219 of 5968
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

my friend's husband is Iraqi. I don't think Naveen looks Iraqi to me, but he is pretty and I want him on my tv.


Rick - Feb 21, 2006 5:12:49 am PST #1220 of 5968

Perhaps we will find out that Sayid is the illegitimate son of an influential Iraqi and a Pakistani guestworker. It might help to explain certain complexities of his character.


Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 21, 2006 6:07:21 am PST #1221 of 5968
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I don't know about a specific Iraqi look, but I have an Israeli friend of Arab descent that resembles Naveen Andrews in a number of facial features. They're at least getting closer to actual physiognomy than giving Mickey Rooney buck teeth and having him squint to play someone Chinese.


Topic!Cindy - Feb 21, 2006 6:39:19 am PST #1222 of 5968
What is even happening?

They're at least getting closer to actual physiognomy than giving Mickey Rooney buck teeth and having him squint to play someone Chinese.
Yeah. I'm still waiting for an actually Semitic Jesus who looks like he might have been a carpenter peasant, rather than a graduate of Eton.


Steph L. - Feb 21, 2006 6:43:12 am PST #1223 of 5968
I look more rad than Lutheranism

And now I feel the need to quote the "Jesus is ___" bit from Avenue Q:

Princeton: Oh, Christ, do I feel good.

Gary Coleman: Now there was a fine upstanding black man!

Princeton: Who?

Gary Coleman: Jesus Christ.

Kate Monster: But, Gary, Jesus was white.

Gary Coleman: No, Jesus was black.

Kate Monster: No, Jesus was white.

Gary Coleman: No, I'm pretty sure that Jesus was black...

Princeton: Guys, guys -- Jesus...was Jewish!


Kathy A - Feb 21, 2006 7:35:17 am PST #1224 of 5968
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Hee! TWoP's homepage introduction to the recap for last week's ep:

It's time to get the pliers. It's time to start some fights. It's time to pummel Others, on the Sayid Show tonight! Sawyer, he hunts a tree frog. And Hurley sneaks a bite! It all seems rather pointless on the Sayid Show tonight. Why do we always watch this? I guess we'll never know. It's kind of like a torture to have to watch the show! And now let's get things started! Why don't you get things started! It's time to get things started on the most vocational, educational, confrontational, Sayidational...this is what we call the Sayid Show! [And then Gonzo comes out and toots his trumpet, except instead of a trumpet sound, we hear Hurley saying, "Dude." Gonzo looks down the bell of his trumpet, sighs, shakes his head and walks offstage.]