Don't kill anyone if you don't have to. We're here to make a deal.

Mal ,'Serenity'


Natter 40: The Nice One  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Nutty - Nov 02, 2005 12:47:05 pm PST #826 of 10006
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Yeah, and people have been blatting about a big hurricane hitting New Orleans for at least ten years and nobody listened.

Well, but hurricanes hit every year -- it was just a matter of aim before it found New Orleans. Fatal airborne epidemics of any kind (to say nothing of influenza) are pretty rare, more rare I bet than a coastal city in the Gulf of Mexico being hit with a large-ish hurricane.

Also, it's possible to gird a city against earthquake, flood, and other disasters pretty much permanently, or anyway for the long term. A lot of people will get flu shots this year, thanks to this new strain, but I bet they'll forget next year. Stockpiling drugs is a good idea, as is creating epidemic disaster plans, but neither of these actions needs a huge press push to be implemented.

Personally I've come around to thinking that universal health care is necessary in one form or another.

You know, I agree, and the weird part is, I think corporations are starting to agree (they matter a lot more than we do). Recently the Times had an article about WalMart, of all places, complaining about the price of managed care, and wondering what to do about it. It sounded from the article as if universal health care was an option they were wishing for, if only they could get past the "socialized medicine" label.

Massachusetts is working on plans for universal health care through corporations in the senate this fall, but it seems awfully messy and half-assed. (Requiring all companies to offer healthcare, or reimbursing companies that do, or -- the plan changes every week.) Still, it's a direction.


Gudanov - Nov 02, 2005 12:55:55 pm PST #827 of 10006
Coding and Sleeping

I think corporations are starting to agree

There's a reason GM and Ford have automotive plants in Canada.


Kathy A - Nov 02, 2005 1:01:01 pm PST #828 of 10006
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

There was a big brouhaha from the GM labor groups a few weeks ago when management said that they had to up the level of unionized employees healthcare contributions from 5% to (I think) 10% (white-collar GM employees pay upwards to 33%).


Vortex - Nov 02, 2005 1:06:11 pm PST #829 of 10006
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

"GET YOUR DAMN HANDS UP!"

The roof
The roof
The roof is on fire . . .


Emily - Nov 02, 2005 1:09:03 pm PST #830 of 10006
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

Well, I'm off. If, while I'm gone, anyone suddenly receives a huge burst of medieval-Arabic-combinatorics knowledge, please let me know, as I'm pretty stumped.


libkitty - Nov 02, 2005 1:12:39 pm PST #831 of 10006
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

that was my point. stated in a very sideways way.

oops. nebbermind.


Hil R. - Nov 02, 2005 1:15:07 pm PST #832 of 10006
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

If, while I'm gone, anyone suddenly receives a huge burst of medieval-Arabic-combinatorics knowledge, please let me know, as I'm pretty stumped.

Once you get back, I might be able to help, if I'm still here then. (Do you have AIM? Might be easier than filling up the boards with math homework.)


flea - Nov 02, 2005 1:18:55 pm PST #833 of 10006
information libertarian

Speaking of lots of media reports about a problem, lots of money spent, and then I heard nothing, can anyone explain the whole Y2K thing to me? I mean, I remember why we were told it was important. But I never heard of anything bad coming of it. Were we just super-efficient and fixed everything on time, or was it a crock?


Maria - Nov 02, 2005 1:19:24 pm PST #834 of 10006
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift

There was a big brouhaha from the GM labor groups a few weeks ago when management said that they had to up the level of unionized employees healthcare contributions from 5% to (I think) 10% (white-collar GM employees pay upwards to 33%).

Uh huh. And it's not over yet.


§ ita § - Nov 02, 2005 1:23:46 pm PST #835 of 10006
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Were we just super-efficient and fixed everything on time, or was it a crock?

It wasn't a crock. A whole lot of software running a whole lot of stuff would have broken. I'm not saying planes would have fallen out of the sky onto your head or anything, but it would have been, at the very least, fucking irritating for all involved.

I'd say the coders who made an assload of money off it deserved what they got. Anything that needed to be fixed can't have been fun to fix.