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'The Message'


Natter 40: The Nice One  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


DavidS - Nov 30, 2005 1:45:31 pm PST #8170 of 10006
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

It's a social dynamic, not a rule, but I think I agree.

That's exactly it. But they exploit the social dynamic - that you're imposing on the people after you - to save themselves a business expense. But it's their responsibility to maintain the facility.


Matt the Bruins fan - Nov 30, 2005 1:46:47 pm PST #8171 of 10006
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

However, I do take trays back at fast food places and hang clothes back on the right racks and the right spots at department stores.

I'd end up doing this regardless of price. My anal-retentiveness is the restaurant/retailer's best friend.


Wolfram - Nov 30, 2005 1:48:19 pm PST #8172 of 10006
Visilurking

OTOH, one could argue that there's a tacit agreement being made that the customer will bus my own table in exchange for not paying the extra penny or two for my Big Mac that busboys would add to the cost. And in fact, that's also what I'm doing by supplanting their labor costs regarding waitresses, too. So maybe I don't agree after all.

I think the waitress (or waiter) thing is a good point. Presumably, McDonalds does pay someone to clean the place every night and probably between the big meal time crowds (like at 10:30 a.m., 3:00 p.m., and 8:30 p.m. for example.) Course I don't eat at McDonalds so I could be making that up. But a busboy would just raise the prices on the food, and there are plenty of places you can go to pay more for food and have your table bussed.


Wolfram - Nov 30, 2005 1:49:08 pm PST #8173 of 10006
Visilurking

That's exactly it. But they exploit the social dynamic - that you're imposing on the people after you - to save themselves a business expense. But it's their responsibility to maintain the facility.

Forget bussing then, what about tipping?

ETA: Not at McD's, but restaurant's with wait staff save a bundle on wages through tips.


DavidS - Nov 30, 2005 1:49:14 pm PST #8174 of 10006
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Yeah, I don't think McDonald's is passing along the savings to me.


Nutty - Nov 30, 2005 1:49:16 pm PST #8175 of 10006
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

You think so? I think if people at McDonald's suddenly stopped bussing their tables en masse, McDonald's would think long and hard about taking out the tables and becoming a to-go only type of franchise.

I mean, why not, right? Less real estate to take care of; less opportunity for loitering teens; fewer barfing toddlers; and who really stays in a fast food joint anyway? (I never do.)


DavidS - Nov 30, 2005 1:51:09 pm PST #8176 of 10006
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Forget bussing then, what about tipping?

That's one place where an incentive system is built into the service industry. Except in Paris, where the ass-hat cafe waiters treat you like shit and get an automatic gratuity.


Aims - Nov 30, 2005 1:51:26 pm PST #8177 of 10006
Shit's all sorts of different now.

There's no one in the world over whom I have that authority.

Well, that's dissapointing.


§ ita § - Nov 30, 2005 1:52:56 pm PST #8178 of 10006
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't think McDonald's is passing along the savings to me.

Except for the part where if their costs go up, so will yours.


§ ita § - Nov 30, 2005 1:54:01 pm PST #8179 of 10006
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Well, that's dissapointing.

Tell me about it. I need me a man to boss around, or perhaps a child or three.

That always works out smoothly, right?