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'Conversations with Dead People'


Natter 40: The Nice One  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jesse - Nov 30, 2005 5:37:49 am PST #7971 of 10006
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I'm with msbelle. Get out now!


Cashmere - Nov 30, 2005 5:40:26 am PST #7972 of 10006
Now tagless for your comfort.

I think Brenda makes a good point about some people (especially in earlier generations) entering the priesthood not because of a real calling, but in order to try to avoid their own sexuality issues.

Yup. I agree with it.

And Cindy brought up the term I couldn't remember--ephebophile, which is equally icky in my book and more specific when describing teenage victims.

To interrupt this priestly talk with ...Monkeys! Monkeys with accents: [link]

Owen's new favorite word. But I suspect that's because his father does the monkey dance and makes monkey sounds when he says it.


Gudanov - Nov 30, 2005 5:44:54 am PST #7973 of 10006
Coding and Sleeping

I got a flyer from Aaron's Rent to Own yesterday and, wow, what a racket. Just because I happen to know computers pretty well, I check out their "deal". There was a Dell computer valued at $800 that was only $99 dollars a month to own in 12 months (but oddly came up to a total financing chart of $500 so there must be a down payment or something). So right off the bat you've got 63% APR right there. Just popping over to Dell website you can get a better computer/monitor combo for $600 so there's at least a $200 markup in addition to the 63% APR. I'd have to guess they must sell to people who are either very uninformed or have absolutely horrible credit.


Dana - Nov 30, 2005 5:45:11 am PST #7974 of 10006
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Today I'm finding e-mails from people who are screaming because I haven't sent them the files they requested. Via e-mail.

You need a snooty boilerplate response that subtly insults their intelligence and ability to do their job. I could look through old e-mails from Portland Man.


Allyson - Nov 30, 2005 5:45:25 am PST #7975 of 10006
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Seriously, shrift.

LA seems a good place for restarts.


brenda m - Nov 30, 2005 5:45:42 am PST #7976 of 10006
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

To me, the real scandal of the pedophile priest scandal was the reaction of the hierarchy whenever parishioners complained. No investigation, no action against the priest. Just move him to a new parish. Where he's free to continue his activities against a whole new set of victims. Among people who've been told by the hierarchy to trust his every word.

This, a thousand times this. This is where they have a chance in hell of doing something about the problem, and precisely where they least want to be.

(Um, they meaning the Vatican, and from what I've seen a fair bit of the church hierarchy.)


Cashmere - Nov 30, 2005 5:47:09 am PST #7977 of 10006
Now tagless for your comfort.

I'd have to guess they must sell to people who are either very uninformed or have absolutely horrible credit.

Both.

And I wonder how they get around usury laws with that. That high of an APR should be illegal.


brenda m - Nov 30, 2005 5:48:21 am PST #7978 of 10006
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

You need a snooty boilerplate response that subtly insults their intelligence and ability to do their job. I could look through old e-mails from Portland Man.

I find a nice "Oh! I'm so sorry, the website request must have gotten lost somehow or we'd have gotten that file to you immediately," can be effective.


Topic!Cindy - Nov 30, 2005 5:49:28 am PST #7979 of 10006
What is even happening?

And Cindy brought up the term I couldn't remember--ephebophile, which is equally icky in my book and more specific when describing teenage victims.

For me, I guess it is less icky, because although it is just as morally icky, it doesn't seem so sexually icky. Let's say a man sees a beautiful, mature female walking down the street. He finds her arousing. He later finds out she's just a grown up looking 15 year old. It's morally icky if he goes after her, but I don't know that it shows any sort of sexual pathology. If he sees a 7 year old or a 2 year old walking down the street and is aroused by her, it's way more icky to me.

Pedophilia, if I understand correctly, isn't something that can be therapized out of a person, either. The best they can hope for is to gain control over their desires, not change them. Ephebophilia, if I understand correctly (and like I said, I don't even think it is a diagnosis sort of term) can be. And if I understand correctly, it's largely a matter of getting a person more comfortable with his peers.

Ooops. Gotta throw up, again.


Gudanov - Nov 30, 2005 5:51:16 am PST #7980 of 10006
Coding and Sleeping

And I wonder how they get around usury laws with that.

Dunno, maybe they are based in Delaware or something. Or maybe they have a wholly owned company in Delaware or some other state without usary laws that does the actual financing.