I'm sorry to hear about your mom's priest friend, JZ -- he sounds like the sort who could (and no doubt did) do a lot of good against the forces of lame-ass crap. In other words, exactly the sort that gets ground down to a nub by forces of etc.
Now you can luxuriate in a nice jail cell, but if your hand touches metal, I swear by my pretty flowered bonnet, I will end you.
Mal ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'
Natter 40: The Nice One
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
amych - Nov 30, 2005 5:05:02 am PST #7958 of 10006
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?
msbelle - Nov 30, 2005 5:05:09 am PST #7959 of 10006
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb
I think the people in my office are getting me sick. Apparently I look like death warmed over. I cannot get sick. They want me to take Airborne. It scares me.
Happy birthday Em!
Cass - Nov 30, 2005 5:06:35 am PST #7960 of 10006
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.
Or, "Only gay priests are molesting children."This is what I meant. That'll teach me not to read my posts before hitting the button when prickly.
Pederastarites (I'm too lazy to find the real word) molest children. Gay priests are either celibate or are having adult consensual sex.
I'm not Catholic and don't know if I agree with the whole Chastity clause but that's the rule when you join.
juliana - Nov 30, 2005 5:07:34 am PST #7961 of 10006
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…
Can people say why julianna feels like Opus in a helmet or is it secret?
juliana got overwhelmed by the love and support that this community has shown her, especially now, when she's going through one of the worst and scariest times in her life, and so she wanted to publicly thank everyone. The people here just generally rock.
Timelies. brenda and Nilly (among others) are very wise people.
Fred Pete - Nov 30, 2005 5:08:34 am PST #7962 of 10006
Ann, that's a ferret.
To me, the real scandal of the pedophile priest scandal was the reaction of the hierarchy whenever parishioners complained. No investigation, no action against the priest. Just move him to a new parish. Where he's free to continue his activities against a whole new set of victims. Among people who've been told by the hierarchy to trust his every word.
Because any group as large as the priesthood is going to have some bad apples. Not saying that's a good thing, just the law of averages. And as Brenda pointed out, Catholicism is set up so that the -- um, sexually unconventional, by which I mean anyone whose desires are other than what the Church has declared to be acceptable -- are going to be encouraged to see the priesthood as a way out.
Jesse - Nov 30, 2005 5:09:14 am PST #7963 of 10006
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
In better news, Happy Birthday, Emeline!
erikaj - Nov 30, 2005 5:09:16 am PST #7964 of 10006
Always Anti-fascist!
wrod. But I can Hell, you know. I live in Arizona. (Not a typo. Just being West Balmer...when the dudes on the corner talk about serving time, they say they "can jail". They just bring their toothbrushes everywhere in case they have to. Juvie doesn't provide toothbrushes in MD apparently.) Toothbrush and 500 SPF sunblock and I can Hell. ETA: I was rather touched by their insistence on oral hygiene given that they sling crack and heroin. But I get affected by strange things, sometimes.
sarameg - Nov 30, 2005 5:12:58 am PST #7965 of 10006
I woke myself up coughing! Because I'm an idiot who neglected to take any medicine before going to bed.
Nothing too dire happened in my absense, that I can tell. Waiting for things to crawl out from uder rocks.
Calli - Nov 30, 2005 5:14:47 am PST #7966 of 10006
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs
Last evening's BBC news did a report on two women who'd traveled to the Vatican to present a petition related to their abuse (when children) by a priest.
Yep. I saw it, too. It was so frustrating to see those women who seemed to be saying, "Look, this awful thing happened to us. Can you just freakin' acknowledge it?"
And, re: JZ's post about the former priest--I hate the idea of someone good at a useful job (while I'm not Catholic I can certainly see the good in what many Catholic priests do), being driven out through an organization's wrongheadedness over those actively not doing good.
Sue - Nov 30, 2005 5:18:16 am PST #7967 of 10006
hip deep in pie
To interrupt this priestly talk with ...Monkeys! Monkeys with accents: [link]