Zoe: Captain will come up with a plan. Kaylee: That's good. Right? Zoe: Possibly you're not recalling some of his previous plans.

'Safe'


Natter 40: The Nice One  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


tommyrot - Nov 30, 2005 4:12:23 am PST #7931 of 10006
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

This morning I saw the headline on a local paper to the effect that the Vatican is going to ban all gay priests. I thought they were just going to ban sexually active gay priests. (Which still sounds bad, but they ban sexually active heterosexual priests too.)


amych - Nov 30, 2005 4:18:21 am PST #7932 of 10006
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

This morning I saw the headline on a local paper to the effect that the Vatican is going to ban all gay priests.

Also, banning "people who support so-called gay culture". You don't even have to be gay to qualify.


tommyrot - Nov 30, 2005 4:21:05 am PST #7933 of 10006
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Also, banning "people who support so-called gay culture". You don't even have to be gay to qualify.

Oh, that sucks. Guess I can't be a priest then.

Although I suppose I'm also excluded by the "no atheists" clause....


Cass - Nov 30, 2005 4:23:17 am PST #7934 of 10006
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

They are really working on, what seems to me, a Don't Ask policy. Priests can be celibately gay but only if they're not all that gay. If "gay" is how they primarily identify themselves, they are becoming pretty unwelcome.

the church will not admit to a seminary nor ordain "those who practice homosexuality, present deep-seated homosexual tendencies or support the so-called 'gay culture.' "

This directive is actually less restrictive than what was expected.


tommyrot - Nov 30, 2005 4:25:39 am PST #7935 of 10006
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Does discussing HoYay online count as "supporting the so-called 'gay culture'"?

I'd think not, 'cuz usually the characters being HoYayified are not part of the so-called 'gay culture'....


Cass - Nov 30, 2005 4:25:52 am PST #7936 of 10006
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

Although I suppose I'm also excluded by the "no atheists" clause
They are getting strict on this one too. Apparently they only want priests who are "Catholic." Whatever.


Cashmere - Nov 30, 2005 4:26:38 am PST #7937 of 10006
Now tagless for your comfort.

They are really working on, what seems to me, a Don't Ask policy. Priests can be celibately gay but only if they're not all that gay

But if a priest goes into confession and confesses to lustful homosexual thoughts, can't that get him pretty much expelled from the priesthood? Even if he doesn't act on them?

This would exclude even celibate gay men from the clergy.


Fred Pete - Nov 30, 2005 4:33:02 am PST #7938 of 10006
Ann, that's a ferret.

I guess they'd have to ignore the pedophiles molesting young girls for starters. But then, that doesn't seem to make the papers as much as boys getting molested, even though I understand it to be considerably more common.

Last evening's BBC news did a report on two women who'd traveled to the Vatican to present a petition related to their abuse (when children) by a priest.


Nilly - Nov 30, 2005 4:38:31 am PST #7939 of 10006
Swouncing

celibately gay

OK, I don't understand the problem in this. I mean, if you have lusts and desires, and your religion forbids you to follow them, and you try to follow this religion by fighting them and trying to avoid them and it's a very difficult daily struggle which you face every day - what's not religious about that? There are plenty of lusts and forbidden-by-religion desires that I have to fight every day. That's part of being religious, in my eyes, having that inner conflict.

There are several rules in the bible (and therefore in Judaism, which are the only ones I'm familiar with) that have to do with what's inside a person's soul. Most of the rules are about what a person does, how he chooses to face those inner struggles. At least, that's how I understand it.


shrift - Nov 30, 2005 4:38:37 am PST #7940 of 10006
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

I took today off yesterday because I felt like crap, and I suppose it was a good thing, because according to my work e-mail, there was a severe attack of stupid yesterday.

Today I'm finding e-mails from people who are screaming because I haven't sent them the files they requested. Via e-mail. Which they aren't supposed to do. And since I have ten million requests pouring into my inbox from all over the world every day, is it unreasonable for me to want people to use the website (which they are supposed to do) for requests, or to contact one of our account executives (which they also should do), instead of trying to get stuff from me and bypassing all of the very necessary red tape?

Ooh. I'm feeling lightheaded. I need a new job.