Raise your hand if 'ew.'

Buffy ,'Same Time, Same Place'


Natter 40: The Nice One  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Nilly - Nov 28, 2005 8:02:07 am PST #7370 of 10006
Swouncing

But some characters transcend the boundaries of what I consider reasonable and are misanthropic prima donnas that demand different rules apply to them because they're so damned marvellous.

This is funny to me because, the roommate-who-couldn't-stand-me that I talked about yesterday? That's how I read her behavior to pretty much everybody (I'm saying "read her behavior" because I'm sure this wasn't what she meant to radiate, it's just how it looked to my seeing-a-different-wavelength eyes), and that was what mostly disturbed me about her. In a real-life sense, not of a fictional character, so it wasn't that pronounced, but still.

So I guess I'm agreeing with ita.


§ ita § - Nov 28, 2005 8:03:36 am PST #7371 of 10006
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Betsy -- you need some whitefonting up there.

I haven't watched the last few episodes, but he was tolerated way more than I was comfortable with in the season+ that I watched. Recent development aside, working at the only hospital you seem to want to work at (which has the closest things which you can call friends (yeah, that's not English)) and finally having to do clinic hours (which you dance around and abuse people for anyway) doesn't seem the hugest loss.

Unemployed or forced to follow everyone else's rules -- that'd be a fun time for me to watch.


Matt the Bruins fan - Nov 28, 2005 8:04:24 am PST #7372 of 10006
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

As my math-free understanding of entropy goes, it's not strictly the amount of disorder always increasing so much as the amount of available energy in a closed system always decreasing. You can temporarily increase the amount of order in a specific system (object, what have you) by moving things around and reorganizing, but the process of doing so involves expending energy and having some of that bleed away as useless random heat.


Sue - Nov 28, 2005 8:06:11 am PST #7373 of 10006
hip deep in pie

Sue, Hope you are feeling bettah!

I am better just thinking about the fact that I am not at work! Even if I have evil CONTAGION!

I think that House would be unwatchable if it wasn't for Laurie's acting. The plots are generally formulaic, the science is dubious and the medicine moreso. The dialogue often shines, but I think even that would clunk with lesser actors. (And I don't know if the Cottages have the chops.) Yet still, I love it.


Betsy HP - Nov 28, 2005 8:06:38 am PST #7374 of 10006
If I only had a brain...

sorry, ita. My brain, she is still in last week.

Recent development aside, working at the only hospital you seem to want to work at

Not true. He's been fired from several hospitals, and Cuddy is the only chief of staff who would hire him. It's pretty clear that if he loses this job, it will be a long cold wait before he finds another.

And Cuddy keeps him because, as he pointed out to her, she wants to believe that the universe can be improved, she wants to believe that people can be saved.

They've done a good job of setting up in-show why he is tolerated. He's one of the best diagnosticians going (witness how he solves everything at the 50-minute mark *g*), Cuddy has emotional reasons for keeping him on, so he has a job.


§ ita § - Nov 28, 2005 8:07:19 am PST #7375 of 10006
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Laurie is brilliant, and the only reason I've watched as much as I have. But in those moments where I remember my time is finite (and that I can't stop entropy), he goes by the wayside.


Gudanov - Nov 28, 2005 8:07:24 am PST #7376 of 10006
Coding and Sleeping

it's not strictly the amount of disorder always increasing so much as the amount of available energy in a closed system always decreasing.

It's the other way around. In a closed system the entropy always increases, but the total energy cannot be changed. In order to increase order you have to put energy into the system and then it's no longer a closed system.


erikaj - Nov 28, 2005 8:08:56 am PST #7377 of 10006
Always Anti-fascist!

ita, I've not really seen the doctor show but once, but in general I can relate to your annoyance with that character device.


§ ita § - Nov 28, 2005 8:09:26 am PST #7378 of 10006
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Cuddy has emotional reasons for keeping him on, so he has a job.

Yeah, that fucking irritates. I mean, I consider it from the position of someone who is battered by the emotional abuse of a co-worker because our boss has "emotional reasons."

eta: Would Cuddy want to save a less brilliant doctor? Would she be able to?


Amy - Nov 28, 2005 8:12:14 am PST #7379 of 10006
Because books.

I think that House would be unwatchable if it wasn't for Laurie's acting. The plots are generally formulaic, the science is dubious and the medicine moreso.

I'm fascinated by House the character, and I totally agree that Laurie is a huge part of it, but the show is beginning to wear on me. It *is* getting formulaic, and I agree with ita -- what, exactly, is the purpose of House's department? Does every hospital have a diagnostician who hangs around waiting for a juicy medical mystery to turn up every once in a while? It seems implausible to me, especially when you factor in his hand-picked staff of three, who don't have much more to do than sit around with him waiting for some interesting patient to turn up. And that's not even addressing how boggling it is that he gets away with behaving the way he does. (That's part of what fascinates me, though -- why does Cuddy, and his team of Scoobies, put up with him? What about him compels people to keep coming back for more?)

I get hung up on realism, though, and I really shouldn't, because TV so often delivers it.