It's because you didn't have a strong father figure isn't it?

Joyce ,'Chosen'


Natter 40: The Nice One  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Gus - Nov 19, 2005 8:03:05 pm PST #5608 of 10006
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

Yes, ita. Not all bad guys are criminals.

Gawd, I lurves it when erikaj goes off on a Levinson lurve-fest!


JenP - Nov 19, 2005 8:05:35 pm PST #5609 of 10006

Most detectives are probably Crosettis and Bolanders.

Yeah, that was refreshing.

Also, I think I may be in a little bit of love with Lewis already.


§ ita § - Nov 19, 2005 8:06:28 pm PST #5610 of 10006
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Not all bad guys are criminals.

I'm not sure what you mean by Bad Guys that's not criminal, and how I was supposed to know you meant something other than that.

I am interested in, however, knowing if the refutation of the points you made changes either your PoV or your argument.


brenda m - Nov 19, 2005 8:09:36 pm PST #5611 of 10006
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Roughly:

4. Bob Dylan once described himself as some combination of Sleepy John Estes and Mortimer Snerd. What combination of puppet and blues musician best characterizes your music? (note: Toppo Gigio is already taken)

3. Shane McGowan - blow-dried prettyboy or Countrypolitan Crooner?

7. Dave Brubeck made his drummer play in 7/8 time on the song "Unsquare Dance." Does that seem right to you?

5. Interviews with you have historically described your apparel as "shabby," "rumpled," and "non-descript" - completely ignoring your fashion innovations with hairnets, moustache wax in the eyebrows and alligator shoes. Do you feel like you've been misunderstood as a fashion icon?

2. In one of Matt Groening's Life Is Hell strips his two sons, Will and Abe, categorize the kind of cartoons they watch. They describe "classic" cartoons as being black and white, and that nothing much happens but the characters bounce their butts up and down to the funny old jazz music. Does the funny old jazz music of classic cartoons make your butt go up and down or does it take a Cuban marimba groove to make you switch your hips?

8. In a death match of blues song titles, which one would win - "Give Me Back My Wig" or "Fattening Frogs for Snakes"?

And now I'm dying to know what this is all about. But I expect you'll fill us in in due time.


Daisy Jane - Nov 19, 2005 8:11:12 pm PST #5612 of 10006
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

Number 4 is my favorite because, Puppet!Waits.


erikaj - Nov 19, 2005 8:11:37 pm PST #5613 of 10006
Always Anti-fascist!

Are you serious? Because a. I frequently think I detect mockage in our conversation. and 2. That's the trouble with this job. Got nothing to do with... well, never mind.) And I think my mom's Had It with my Baltimore thing already, and she doesn't even know how deep it goes, so don't toy with me, bunky. Couldn't take it.ETA: Sigh. Loving Lewis eventually comes to a "Curse you and your inevitable betrayal!" moment but not for a Very Long Time. But Clark Johnson's being...winning makes for a lot.


Daisy Jane - Nov 19, 2005 8:11:53 pm PST #5614 of 10006
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

brenda and I are collectively brilliant and pretty.


JenP - Nov 19, 2005 8:13:09 pm PST #5615 of 10006

Are you serious?

Is this to me? (Oh, der. It's probably to Gus.)

(What? It isn't all about me? Also, I was thinking, "Wait, shouldn't I be in love with Lewis?")


Gus - Nov 19, 2005 8:15:26 pm PST #5616 of 10006
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

I'm not sure what you mean by Bad Guys that's not criminal, and how I was supposed to know you meant something other than that.

I'm caught a little short here. The gradation between bad guy and criminal seems plain to me. Maybe I'm using terms that only mean what they mean to me.

I'll try. A bad guy stands you up. A criminal rapes you -- or in your case -- tries to and ends up in the hospital.

I missed the refutations of my points, so my PoV remains the same.


DavidS - Nov 19, 2005 8:17:11 pm PST #5617 of 10006
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

brenda and I are collectively brilliant and pretty.

Individually too. Put you two together and it's like watching Venus rise up on the brainwaves of Einstein.