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Natter 40: The Nice One  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


§ ita § - Nov 16, 2005 11:03:27 am PST #4682 of 10006
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

But there's a line past which they become totally unguessable by the owners, which I think is the point at which it becomes ineffective.

What's the policy in question?

It was very windy in Simi yesterday. Made it feel mid 70s. Huh. It's not rained much this November. My first two Novembers come back to me as a whole lot of rain.


Emily - Nov 16, 2005 11:05:26 am PST #4683 of 10006
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

8 characters, one capital, one lowercase, one number, one non-alphanumeric.

Also, this new system my university has just implemented is a freaking nightmare.


Tom Scola - Nov 16, 2005 11:06:04 am PST #4684 of 10006
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

tommyrot, the company that manufactures the Rabbit with Big Pointy Teeth plush also makes a "Gilly" plush.


tommyrot - Nov 16, 2005 11:08:18 am PST #4685 of 10006
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Oh cool - I didn't realize they were the same company.


bon bon - Nov 16, 2005 11:08:46 am PST #4686 of 10006
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I have a similar password problem. It's easier to remember if you start it with an uppercase and end with a punctuation like Emi1y!


§ ita § - Nov 16, 2005 11:09:09 am PST #4687 of 10006
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

That's the same one we have at my office -- you just need a system. How often do you have to change them? Me, I do something like:

  • pick a word you'll remember
  • capitalise one letter of it
  • put a period between two of the syllables
  • replace one of the letters with a digit, and you can increment that digit if you have to change the password regularly

So I could end up with something like Am1lio.ration. Or whatever.


sarameg - Nov 16, 2005 11:09:31 am PST #4688 of 10006

8 characters, one capital, one lowercase, one number, one non-alphanumeric.

One of my companies has this policy. But it can't be any longer than 8 letters, either. Mandatory password cycles result in a lot of swearing from me.


Jesse - Nov 16, 2005 11:11:21 am PST #4689 of 10006
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Yeah, I mean, I guess they're right, but it's still annoying. I have a string of numbers I liked to use (with letters interspersed, if need be), but it doesn't have enough different digits for the New Systems.


Emily - Nov 16, 2005 11:13:22 am PST #4690 of 10006
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

The thing is, I have a bunch of passwords I remember to conform with various policies. I've only got so much brainspace! Also, if I log on every day or so, okay. I'll remember. But if, as seems likely, it's once a week if that...

(But I've gone ahead and done it. I used the password I came up with to use in places where I feel the policy is stupid, and made the relevant changes, e.g. Ri0icu|ous. It's pointless and petty, but it makes me feel better.)


JZ - Nov 16, 2005 11:17:46 am PST #4691 of 10006
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Having had to call the support staff and have my password changed about fifty times, I have finally given up on being overly clever. Now I just cycle through Schoolhouse Rock titles. Capitalize the first letter, number the number, throw a punctuation mark at the end and it's done. Usually I doodle whatever number it is somewhere unobtrusive on my desk or bulletin board or address book or calendar, with the date I changed it. To anyone else, random number. To me, password in plain sight.