I've seen honest faces before. They usually come attached to liars.

Willow ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Natter 40: The Nice One  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Daisy Jane - Nov 13, 2005 2:59:39 pm PST #3774 of 10006
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

Oh come now, like you didn't know that from the pilot when the evil main character, who was raised by tv, exploited the vanities and weaknesses in a powerful family-run company?

Or I suppose it could have been the incest


Scrappy - Nov 13, 2005 3:00:39 pm PST #3775 of 10006
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

I don't think it was drugs, I think the only reason they made the second one was that they had so much fun working on the first and that isn't enough to make a strong script. My BF said it was like watching someone else's vacation movie.


Kristen - Nov 13, 2005 3:01:52 pm PST #3776 of 10006

My BF said it was like watching someone else's vacation movie.

Oh, that is perfect.


NoiseDesign - Nov 13, 2005 3:02:02 pm PST #3777 of 10006
Our wings are not tired

Yeah, Ocean's Twelve was the cast taking nice vacation in Europe. Really not a good movie.


§ ita § - Nov 13, 2005 3:02:16 pm PST #3778 of 10006
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Oh, dear lord. In the original pitch, Bobbi was his birth mother. Those men are wrong.


brenda m - Nov 13, 2005 3:02:31 pm PST #3779 of 10006
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Ok, weird. I just realized the creepy crematorium guy on the L&O CI I just watched is my friend's husband.


Daisy Jane - Nov 13, 2005 3:03:16 pm PST #3780 of 10006
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

I prefer The Italian Job to either Ocean's movie. If only for Eddie Izzard's reenactment with mice and in French.


Kristen - Nov 13, 2005 3:04:23 pm PST #3781 of 10006

Those men are wrong.

Are you listening to the commentary? Did they talk about getting kicked out of CBS yet?


Daisy Jane - Nov 13, 2005 3:04:46 pm PST #3782 of 10006
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

Really ita? Awesome. I haven't watched them with commentary yet. They are currently on loan out of state.


§ ita § - Nov 13, 2005 3:05:07 pm PST #3783 of 10006
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

O11 is just that pretty. I think, save the last scene or so, it's a jewel of a heist movie. O12 -- well, it has some great "old married folks" scenes with Pitt/Clooney.

Worst capoeira usage ever, though.