Atherton: Half the men in this room wish you were on their arm, tonight. Inara: Only half. I must be losing my indefinable allure.

'Shindig'


Natter 40: The Nice One  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jesse - Nov 07, 2005 7:09:27 am PST #1818 of 10006
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Hey! It's totally lunch time! Taking an extra hour to get to work thanks to train issues means I'm all thrown off.


aurelia - Nov 07, 2005 7:11:13 am PST #1819 of 10006
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

I want to go to lunk.

Is that downtown somewhere?


Nilly - Nov 07, 2005 7:13:19 am PST #1820 of 10006
Swouncing

I just found out I passed my blood test last Friday and DO NOT have gestational diabetes this time around.

Oh, that's great! So you had to take that nasty examination with all the sugar drinking?

However, eventually somebody's going to check central records and find you missing

Obviously, you'll have to have a completely different set of skills in order to pull that off. And there has to be a crossover phase, where the former ones slowly cease being effective and the new ones are yet to be perfected. Interesting.

Sue, that's great - you're passing along the nice!


Nutty - Nov 07, 2005 7:13:35 am PST #1821 of 10006
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

How late in the Industrial Age is it practical to masquerade as somebody else, given the existence of (say) photographs and telegraphs?

Well, there was that man who was arrested in New York, mistaken for a convicted criminal in California, and spent two years in prison accidentally under an assumed name. The man in question was insane, and thus not terribly able to plead his case, but the fact was, with all the ID procedures that happen in the prison system, nobody noticed he was the wrong man. (Nobody bothered to compare fingerprints, and the two men were the same race, though not the same age and didn't look that much like each other.)

This was in the last 4 years -- I read about it in the NYT Magazine.

While it may be impossible to claim a dukedom in this late age, certainly it is possible to create a new identity from scratch, using gravestone data from children born the same year as you. (I didn't get a social security number till I was ten, so if I'd died at 6, I'd have been a perfect candidate.) More and more children are getting SSNs at birth, though, so that loophole is closing.

Being born in a war zone, or really, living in a war zone at any time, is still pretty good for self-reinvention. Probably the "I was born in a small town, and the Official Records office burned down" excuse no longer works, what with statewide/national repositories of that kind of information. But if the state/national office burned down, or even just got shelled a little bit, go for it!

Of course, people still do claim "I'm descended from the Hapsburgs," I bet. It's just that anybody who bothers to doubt this claim could probably disprove it pretty well. So the assertions of nobility have to be subtler or less assertive.


§ ita § - Nov 07, 2005 7:14:07 am PST #1822 of 10006
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

There's a woman in this training session that's too beautiful. I need to get her thrown out so I'll be able to concentrate--well, not on the materials, perhaps, but at least on normal slacking.

It's like that story where the thief sues the person whose house he's injured breaking into, and the lawsuit gets escalated to god because one of the people making one of the bits that went into the window was distracted by a beautiful woman that walked by, and that's why it was faulty.

Except without the lawbreaking or the religion.


Nora Deirdre - Nov 07, 2005 7:26:28 am PST #1823 of 10006
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

question: those of you watching this season of The Amazing Race: family Edition, are you liking it?


Sue - Nov 07, 2005 7:26:53 am PST #1824 of 10006
hip deep in pie

Sue, that's great - you're passing along the nice!

I didn't even mention the lady I met with at the bank who brought my wallet to me when I forgot it after our meeting. I sent her flowers. So I guess what goes around does come around.


Calli - Nov 07, 2005 7:42:28 am PST #1825 of 10006
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Being born in a war zone, or really, living in a war zone at any time, is still pretty good for self-reinvention. Probably the "I was born in a small town, and the Official Records office burned down" excuse no longer works, what with statewide/national repositories of that kind of information. But if the state/national office burned down, or even just got shelled a little bit, go for it!

I wonder if Katrina did any kind of number on Gulf State records.


Betsy HP - Nov 07, 2005 7:42:43 am PST #1826 of 10006
If I only had a brain...

question: those of you watching this season of The Amazing Race: family Edition, are you liking it?

I never even watched last week's episode because I hate nearly everybody so much.


sarameg - Nov 07, 2005 7:44:24 am PST #1827 of 10006

I got bored a couple weeks ago because there were just too many people to keep track of and they weren't that interesting.