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Spike's Bitches 27: I'm Embarrassed for Our Kind.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Emily - Dec 13, 2005 7:22:56 am PST #9618 of 10003
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

Why would 0^0 ever equal 1?

Convenience.

What? You were expecting something mathy?


Steph L. - Dec 13, 2005 7:25:32 am PST #9619 of 10003
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

Teppy, did you just need to understand for curiosity's sake, or do you have a situation that is requiring you to get this mathy (and should we smite it for you, if you do)?

Just curiosity. I had a completely geeky conversation last night with Confusing!Boy (remember him?) about my unholy love of the OED, and somehow that became a conversation about binary numbers, and I even tried to make a joke about binary numbers....and he didn't hang up on me! Keen!

But all morning I've been thinking about binary numbers (instead of thinking about Confusing!Boy, which I think just proves what a nerd I am).


Aims - Dec 13, 2005 7:28:26 am PST #9620 of 10003
Shit's all sorts of different now.

anything raised to the 0 power is 1.

Even 0? How about a cat?

I have zeros, Tep. Can you raise me?


Emily - Dec 13, 2005 7:30:13 am PST #9621 of 10003
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

I have zeros, Tep. Can you raise me?

I see your zeros and raise you a cat. (Take my cat, please!)

So, is it wrong to end my paper on Turing with, "which is too bad, because just think of all the cool stuff he could have done if he hadn't died!" I suppose I should think of some serious way to say that, huh?


Steph L. - Dec 13, 2005 7:30:27 am PST #9622 of 10003
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

anything raised to the 0 power is 1.

Even 0? How about a cat?

I have zeros, Tep. Can you raise me?

I didn't make any of those zero-related comments, you know.

Though I'm pretty good at giving people a....rise.


erikaj - Dec 13, 2005 7:32:36 am PST #9623 of 10003
Always Anti-fascist!

Binary may be easier to figure out.Than confusing guy.


Gudanov - Dec 13, 2005 7:33:15 am PST #9624 of 10003
Coding and Sleeping

What? You were expecting something mathy?

It's just it seems like it isn't hard to come up with a mathy reason for 0^0 to be 0/0 ickiness, so why go with the unmathy when the mathy is there?

Oh well.


Gris - Dec 13, 2005 7:43:23 am PST #9625 of 10003
Hey. New board.

Well, Gud, here's the thing: I've always defined in the opposite direction. That is, the reason I've always justified that a^-1 was equal to 1/a was the same argument you just made, only backwards. That is, a^-1 has to be such that a^-1 * a^1 = a^0 = 1 (by definition), so a^-1 must be 1/a for a ≠ 0 and undefined for a = 0. But then there's no problem allowing 0^0 to be 1, because it's the 0^-1 that's the undefined number in this insoluble equation. That is: undefined * 0 = 1 makes just as much sense as undefined * 0 = undefined.


Volans - Dec 13, 2005 7:46:03 am PST #9626 of 10003
move out and draw fire

I would like to interrupt the mathy talk by saying that I am wearing my St. Nicholas Day present, a "Joss Whedon is My Master Now" t-shirt, and it's making me look BUSTY. Like Hooters girl busty. Cheaper than plastic surgery.

Also, I want one of these for Christmas, except I want one that works: [link]

Thanks for the Goober!Baby reassurance. Mallory's doing the thing where he gets on his hands and knees and rocks back and forth also, looking like he's a jockey in post position. That wasn't as worrying, because it was clear he was doing it on purpose.

Speaking of, he learned to crawl on his hands and knees in a hotel room in Germany - the increased velocity took him by surprise and he ran his head into the wooden bed.


Emily - Dec 13, 2005 7:52:29 am PST #9627 of 10003
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

For Steph:

"The ace, it was explained, uses pulses of electricity generated at the rate of a million a second.... On the machine these pulses are used to indicate the figure 1 and the gaps the figure 0. All calculations are done using only these two digits on the binary scale."

I just mention it because I'm going through the King's College digital archive looking for last-minute Turing stuff, and that was from a 1950 newspaper report "From our science editor" on one of the very early computers. [link]