Damn it! You know what? I'm sick of this crap. I'm sick of being the guy who eats insects and gets the funny syphilis. As of this moment, it's over. I'm finished being everybody's butt monkey!

Xander ,'Lessons'


Spike's Bitches 27: I'm Embarrassed for Our Kind.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


beekaytee - Dec 07, 2005 6:30:54 am PST #8271 of 10003
Compassionately intolerant

My confusion was in the idea of Christmas even being *able* to become more commercialized in *any* way, b/c it already seems chock-full of commercialization,

I know. Instead of putting the Starbucks xmas decorations up the day after Halloween, they could put them up in August. Which, at least, woudl be more religiously accurate.

While a burning and sinking Arizona would not make for a cheery celebratory cartoon on Google, not having anything seems like a missed educational opportunity. Like those I've seen for Bastille Day or national fill in the blank day.


Amy - Dec 07, 2005 6:31:05 am PST #8272 of 10003
Because books.

Oh, Bev. Yuck. Having just been through a plumbing/water disaster, I sympathize.

I try to say "Enjoy your holidays," especially to people I don't know well (the chick at the back, salesclerks, the guy I get freelance work from), because that pretty much covers everything.


Amy - Dec 07, 2005 6:32:12 am PST #8273 of 10003
Because books.

cereal:

Well, I think the issue in their eyes is, "You want our money, but you don't want to acknowledge why we're spending our money."

Yes, this. That's what I took from that, too.


Cashmere - Dec 07, 2005 6:33:56 am PST #8274 of 10003
Now tagless for your comfort.

Mom's toilet downstairs had malfunctioned, the "ball" part of the newfangled replacement for the cock and ball assembly had not reseated after she'd last flushed

The 10 year old in my head is saying, "Hehehehe. Cock and ball." I'm awful.

Sorry about the plumbing issues, Beverly. That sucks.

Hehehehehe. Cock and ball.


Scrappy - Dec 07, 2005 6:35:13 am PST #8275 of 10003
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

"You want our money, but you don't want to acknowledge why we're spending our money."

But why should they? They serve people celebrating-- special sales, Christmas decorations and cards with a religious theme, books with a religious theme--why do they have to do any more than that?


beekaytee - Dec 07, 2005 6:35:31 am PST #8276 of 10003
Compassionately intolerant

I'm working hard toward being much less contstrained by social expectations

I know a very happy couple who go all the way with the commercialization of the season while being unfettered by social expectations. They wait until the day after Christmas to do their holiday shopping. That way, they can give the prezzies they love and concentrate on the one thing they mutually love even more...BARGAINS.

Their families know they will be getting their gifts the second week of January. No one seems to mind...especially since they get such good stuff!


Gris - Dec 07, 2005 6:35:47 am PST #8277 of 10003
Hey. New board.

Gris, I'd celebrate them all. Of course, I am not one to turn down a good party and good food.

Outwardly, I will. I mean, I'll go to Christmas Eve Methodist service (and sing in the choir), I'll give and receive presents under the Christmas tree from all my family members, I'll play games with my little cousins and ask them what santa gave them, and I'll probably join Gershwin Girl for at least one, and possibly several, menorah lightings. It's what my thoughts are and should be that's confusing.


Beverly - Dec 07, 2005 6:39:27 am PST #8278 of 10003
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Since the near-universal adoption of email I don't do this any more. But I used not to send holiday cards at all, but instead write chatty letters to people who sent us cards. I had people begging me not to send a card so they'd get a letter sometime before Valentine's Day. I still scribble notes in most of our holiday cards...

... when I send them.


Emily - Dec 07, 2005 6:39:37 am PST #8279 of 10003
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

"You want our money, but you don't want to acknowledge why we're spending our money."

But.. but... but... sigh.

Actually, it reminds me of how occasionally I'll read someone saying talking about how "everybody wanted to help those tsunami victims on the other side of the planet, but nothing gets done for the Katrina victims." It's always easiest to see how you're being unfairly persecuted (to be fair, people displaced (unhomed?) by Katrina are getting the shaft in any number of ways, but it's not true that nobody wanted to help).


Amy - Dec 07, 2005 6:39:53 am PST #8280 of 10003
Because books.

But why should they? They serve people celebrating-- special sales, Christmas decorations and cards with a religious theme, books with a religious theme--why do they have to do any more than that?

Well, they don't, obviously. But what I took away from the AFA's stance was that they think it's a bit hypocritical if stores don't explicitly state it.