It's an extra-confusing time of year for a religiously conflicted agnostic.
Amen.
I would be there right now.
Simon ,'Objects In Space'
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Cashmere - Dec 07, 2005 6:06:18 am PST #8252 of 10003
Now tagless for your comfort.
Emily - Dec 07, 2005 6:07:52 am PST #8253 of 10003
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola
Some Christians, on the other hand, dislike Christmas being used as a sales tool and secularized to the point of irrelevance. Those (just as devout) people are very happy not to have flyers touting "Birth of Christ two-day sale! Mary and Joseph would have bought their toasters here!"
amych - Dec 07, 2005 6:08:40 am PST #8254 of 10003
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?
Gris, stick to celebrating food and gifties and gathering together for good times with people (and possibly peeps, if you can find them out of season) you love and worshiping whatever makes you feel genuinely worshipful; if anyone tries to boycott you for it, smack 'em with a herring.
Cashmere - Dec 07, 2005 6:09:46 am PST #8255 of 10003
Now tagless for your comfort.
I got up and got us out early today. We went to an upscale mall so Owen could play in their play area. I also found the only Sephora in town. I'm DOOMED. DOOMED!
If there was a Starbucks at their foodcourt, I'd still be there.
Fred Pete - Dec 07, 2005 6:10:27 am PST #8256 of 10003
Ann, that's a ferret.
When I was growing up, we used Happy Holidays even though we were in a very conservative, Christian area. We didn't know any Jewish people, or atheists, for that matter.
My mother had jobs that involved a lot of customer contact in a pretty conservative Christian area. She would say "Happy Holidays" from early November to the end of the year. To bring Thanksgiving into the picture.
Ignore the holidays entirely except to buy Christmas presents for my family?
Well, don't ignore New Year's. Which "Merry Christmas" does.
Jessica - Dec 07, 2005 6:10:52 am PST #8257 of 10003
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
Do you mean that just in the sense that the celebration of the birth of Christ is being formally linked to shopping?
I'm confused by the word "just" here
Steph L. - Dec 07, 2005 6:12:30 am PST #8258 of 10003
I look more rad than Lutheranism
Do you mean that just in the sense that the celebration of the birth of Christ is being formally linked to shopping?
I'm confused by the word "just" here
I used it because the link to shopping was the only thing I could think of, and I was wondering if there were other reasons I hadn't thought of, in addition to the Christ = shopping link.
Ginger - Dec 07, 2005 6:13:30 am PST #8259 of 10003
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda
Do you mean that just in the sense that the celebration of the birth of Christ is being formally linked to shopping?
Exactly. Religious Christians used to remind people "not to take the Christ out of Christmas" and remind them of the importance of giving to the less fortunate. The "No Happy Holidays" crowd seems okay with, "Go out and spend money in the name of Christ."
beekaytee - Dec 07, 2005 6:15:17 am PST #8260 of 10003
Compassionately intolerant
"Happy Pearl Harbor Day"
I've been amazed that this is the first mention of Pearl Harbor Day I've seen/heard so far today. Not even a Google cartoon!
My year end holidaying is generally devoted to the completely arbitrary, but useful notion of renewal as the year turns. Holiday celebrations serve as a boost for the winter blues, and not much else, for me.
Gift giving, sadly, has become something of a defensive maneuver. I tend to gift at will throughout the year, rather on the collective shopping days. But I feel obliged to reciprocate Christmas presents.
Jessica - Dec 07, 2005 6:17:03 am PST #8261 of 10003
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
I used it because the link to shopping was the only thing I could think of, and I was wondering if there were other reasons I hadn't thought of, in addition to the Christ = shopping link.
I don't think there is. And by boycotting Target for not displaying Christmas paraphanalia, the AFA is implying that "Happy Birthday Jesus" should be associated in the public eye with "Mama needs a new flatscreen TV." I don't think they've really thought it through.